I rarely use center channel with processor


I set up my processor, nad m17 v2i, so that I can alternate between six channel or five channel(without center). I’m finding that my mains which are B&W 802D3, don’t really need the center channel for most streaming. I am biamping with tubes and solid state so that may be helping the quality

The vocals come through just fine on the main speakers.  Overall things sound better. It’s easy to toggle back-and-forth for purposes of excluding the center.

Does anyone else not use a center speaker because it is better to use only the mains?  I will admit I occasionally use the center channel sometimes when I need the vocal sound to come through better but it rarely happens. 

emergingsoul

@erik_squires 

it sounds good either way when I toggle to exclude the center channel, improves when I exclude the center. Maybe it's because, the upper/mid range drivers on the main speakers are tube driven. And the center is solid state.

But I allowed for that and I still think it sounds better. 

it sounds good either way when I toggle to exclude the center channel, improves when I exclude the center. Maybe it’s because, the upper/mid range drivers on the main speakers are tube driven. And the center is solid state.

But I allowed for that and I still think it sounds better. 

 

I believe your experience, but it’s not universal.   If someone asked me if this is normal, I'd say no, it points to something not quite right yet. 

@erik_squires 

+1

I have tried home theater without a center channel (I have all the same B&W 805 speakers... the center channel is a center channel one) and the difference has been obvious and poor. The lack of energy coming from the center was profound. 

65 inch screen and size reasonably close so L/R speakers are only just to the sides of the screen with seating about 1.5 the distance between the speaker sway from the screen. 

I use my Oppo 205 to downmix and just use two channel for everything. My main speakers are Stirling LS3/5as and AB-2 bass extenders, both with high-quality external crossovers, and the soundstage and imaging means vocal/effect placement is spot on. It would be awkward/expensive to replicate that with a centre of the same quality and there's no need. Plus I would have to trade mu miniDSP SHD for a multichannel version.

I don't use rear channels - I find too much of a disconnect between the 2D screen in front of me, which is wide but does not fill my whole field of vision, and the attempt to create a 3D audio space, I'd rather my brain just process 2D, and the stereo effect makes a pretty good attempt at throwing sounds around the soundstage anyway.

 

 

Also have some subs there as well.

@andrewdrummond 

Placement of rear speakers I think is really important. Not so much in the back of the room but on the sides so the sound is received directly to the side of your head. 

But I find that without rear speakers you still get sound from behind you from the reflections which Is fine, and sometimes preferable. But even with that I’m not a big fan of rear speakers because the quality the recordings is seldom that good to take advantage of it.

Sure occasionally you get targeted rear channel effects but it’s kind of annoying most of the time. 

subwoofers and main speakers that’s all you need.