Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?


Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?

I'm currently trialing the NAD M23 (1st gen. Eigentakt-based), and I find it intriguing enough to want to understand it better — which means understanding the broader sonic landscape of class D. So I'm crowd-sourcing.

In a recent exchange, the estimable Ralph Karsten (Atma-Sphere Music Systems) made two comments that stopped me cold. For those who missed it, here's what he said:

"IME, class D amps vary in sound more than tube amps, which is to say, quite a lot."

"IMO there is a bigger difference between various class D amps than you hear between various tube amps. IOW just because you heard one class D amp says nothing about how the next one might sound."

Link: https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2885828

As I think through this more carefully, these are genuinely important claims. My own experience with tube amps confirms that they produce audibly distinct characters across topologies and designs. If Ralph is right and class D exceeds that range, then generalizing from one class D experience to another is even more hazardous than I assumed.

One specific question for Audiogon members:

If you have a Class D amp or have compared class D amplifiers, how would you describe their character(s)?

Here are some criteria I use:

  1. Frequency balance — Is the tonal response even across bass, mids, and treble, or does it favor certain regions?
  2. High-frequency texture — Are the highs extended and smooth, or edgy, grainy, and fatiguing?
  3. Bass definition — Is the low end tight and articulate, or loose and bloated?
  4. Midrange character — Does the midrange feel present and natural, or recessed and thin?
  5. Transient speed — Does the amp respond quickly to dynamic attacks, or does it sound sluggish and rounded?
  6. Dynamic range — Does it scale convincingly from quiet passages to loud ones, or compress the difference?
  7. Soundstage width and depth — Does it create a convincing three-dimensional image, or sound flat and narrow?
  8. Image specificity — Are instruments and voices placed precisely, or do they blur and wander?
  9. Background noise floor — Is the silence between notes actually silent, or is there grain, haze, or hash?
  10. Long-term listenability — After an extended session, do you want to keep listening, or has something been quietly fatiguing you?

If you can include relevant system context — room, speakers, preamp — please do. Those variables will help me interpret what the amp itself is contributing.

I'm less interested in rankings than in understanding what Ralph mentioned, namely the [vast] range of sonic signatures class D is capable of. Eigentakt, Hypex, Pascal, Purifi, GaN-based, etc. — all fair game.

Price is no constraint here — I'm interested in the full range of what's out there.

hilde45

@hilde45 I will say the limit to my tube/hypex experience is Rogue and AVM 5.2.  Those I think are good.  Primare has no tube and I don’t fine them edgy at all. 

NAD is an amazing value.  I think you will struggle to beat it at those price points. 

AGD sounds a bit more liquid than NAD.  NAD sounds like a good bipolar to me while AGD sounds more like a MOSFET or maybe a MOSFET/bipolar hybrid.  They are awesome.  

Regarding Linn, the older Chakra amps at the Klimax level are really, really good in the sub $20K price tier.  I have never heard their Akurate level amps which are not crazy expensive.  I should probably borrow one for demo. 

The new amps using the new PSU tech are not for the faint of heart in terms of price.  The 800s are a hair over $100K/ pair and the 500s are in the $65K range.  That said, they legit go toe-to-toe with NAGRA, Burmester, D’ag, etc... and hold their own.  

@verdantaudio Thanks for the continued, helpful description. The audio community is really fortunate to have you as a dealer and willing to participate in conversations. 

I decided to do a little research on Linn, and came across this really interesting review in Stereophile. The discussion here about linear vs. switching power supplies really helps bust myths/opinions about switching power supplies if they are done right. Linn is quite a company, it seems, and offers an interesting forward path.

@parkergetdean you should really try a quality class D. Oh and run them in. 

Also curious as the the components that comprised the system used to audition. 

I had two SMSL PA200s in dual mono mode a month ago. They were very harsh,  with limited sound-stage, I returned them.

@hilde45 Thank you for the kind words.  You are right to note the use of switching power supplies and why they used them vs huge linear supplies.  What is shocking to me is these are one of the best measuring amps in the world.  Note John Atkinson's final comment.  However, they are musical and engaging in ways that I rarely experience with high powered SS amps.  Linn is obsessive about phase coherence and it really shows up in their sound signature.