NAD M33

mgrif104 Thank you very much!

Do you have any other speakers that you can try with the M33 or borrow from a friend? I always read that class D amps weren't nearly as good as tubes or class A with high efficiency speakers like the Heresys. That's a lot of power--be careful not to blow a driver. Good luck---keep us posted.

crank that VC until you get the action you need and disregard the numbers shown.  I used it in all its configurations. bi-amping it internally didn't yield much more than the single amp config. It gets most speakers moving pretty well but if you stretch its legs, it ends up showing you the limits of its power.  I will say it's an impressive bit of gear for most though.  IMO it has a bit too many options for the average user to "get wrong" in the setup leaving the user to misinterpret the misconfiguration as something being wrong with the unit.  I found using it as a digital source unity gain/pre-out into my Audio Palette for the final VC... tolerable...which is basically a thumbs up;)

Just to echo what other owners/former owners have said.  Yes, regardless of efficiency of the 3 different speakers I paired it with (none super efficient but roughly 92-85 dB) it needed to be at least 1/3 the way up to be audible and generally around 45-50% for normal listening.  (FWIW, I hated the built-in streamer and disliked the DAC.)

I had the M12 preamp and M22 amp combo a while back. I enjoyed the M22 for what it is, nice amp, but it’s not going to compete with my big VAC tube amps. By contrast I didn’t think the M12 was very good at all, though I loved its interface and features. So perhaps the M33 is held back by its preamp stage? 

The amp stage alone should be quite good, though with M22 I found it really benefits from a sweet tube pre and maybe a bit of a "dark" source too (e.g. VPI tables). Otherwise it can come off as too "dry" sounding - and the matching preamp just made that aspect worse. 

Try to borrow a tube pre and pipe it in if you can. If you don’t like the M33’s low preamp gain, that would help there too (it’s a low gain you’re noting, not low power - plenty on tap there). Ironically in the more distant past I had a NAD M51 preamp/DAC, and my memory of that one is MUCH better than of the M12. 

The BlueOS setup & usage was way way worse several years ago, but it still finds ways to annoy me when I run it again, once in a blue moon. I despise getting bugged for updates, when I just want to listen. I am a software engineer, and just no - this does not belong here, in my music! Also back then, you couldn’t just plug in a SSD drive of music, either. I almost chucked the Node 2i out the window a few times.