Okay, I am Taking the Pro Audio Plunge


Over the last year, I’ve read seemingly countless anecdotes about how pro audio gear can trounce alleged “HiFi” brands of the usual suspects, dollar-for-dollar. I am talking Pro Audio brands the likes of Neumann, Genelec, Adam and ATC Pro. 
Some allege that models from these brands represent the true state-of-the-art in speaker design. I mean, say what you want about ASR and their implicit bias, but how can you ignore reviews such as this?:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/neumann-kh-310a-review-powered-monitor.17723/
 

I felt compelled to test this theory to the best of my ability, and within my means. Thusly, I purchased the Neumann KH310 monitors to test at home.

So what do you believe I might expect when these are compared to my Satori Helios Textremes and modest Parasound A21? I plan to listen at “mid-field” distances. 

Regards

 

 

helomech


They may be better, but I choose the Entry series for my home.  I saw many good reviews for the ATC SCM 40 and its accuracy.  Their Mid 75mm ATC Soft Dome is the most incredible midrange driver I have ever heard.  They are incredible accurate, I continue to hear new items in recordings listened to for decades. Crazy things such as distinct guitar picks or fingers, and more so, bass fingers resulting in immediate beautiful sound.    Touching the drums with one's hands is another.  With a sealed base design, they are extremely tight and mesh perfectly with my sealed pair of JL Audio F113 V2. I love tight deep base. The blending and separation of the bass drum and guitar become intriguing.  

I haven’t heard the SCM 40. I auditioned the 19v2 and found it was good but seemingly lacked bass for its size. I have been close to purchasing the SCM 40s a number of times, but my current speakers are flatter in response by a good margin, so I am wary of going that route. 

I didn’t know all their Pro models are designed for nearfield, so that helps. Thanks. 
 

 

 

 

 

If coaxial's your thing, here are a couple of other candidates as well, pro tannoys (you'd need a sub).

12 inch

https://www.tannoy.com/product.html?modelCode=0312-ANL

15 inch

https://www.tannoy.com/product.html?modelCode=0312-ANR

 

@helomech wrote

With further research I have found an intriguing contender that uses Radian drivers:

https://eaw.com/products/mkc120/#features

 

 

I believe the Neumanns would an excellent upgrade. Though since you listen at midfield distances I believe this would be a better fit https://www.neumann.com/en-us/products/monitors/kh-420?variant=505988

If I was in the market for new monitors I would definitely be interested in these.

Don't under estimate what a tri-amped speaker can do and depending on what kind access they give you to the DSP engines, the results could be pretty spectacular.

Depending on what type of music you listen to and how loud you listen to it you may need to add a subwoofer system to them, but if you are replacing a non-subbed 2-way speaker with the Neumanns, they should blow your current system clean out of the water.

A couple of things to be aware of. These speakers are balanced input only so if your preamp is single ended, you would need an adaptor and you would loose some of the potential performance.

If they grant you full access to the DSP the learning curve is...well never ending. Mainly because the ability of the ear to improve and understand what it is hearing is slower than the capabilities of what a speaker of this nature can do.

Also pro audio manufactures don't normally offer a trail period, so if one is a requirement, I would get written confirmation from them that a trial period is an option. 


Depending on what type of music you listen to and how loud you listen to it you may need to add a subwoofer system to them, but if you are replacing a non-subbed 2-way speaker with the Neumanns, they should blow your current system clean out of the water.

I have DSP and Parametric EQ capability already through my WiiM Ultra. My Fiio K13 DAC also has EQ functions (though I haven’t messed with them).

Forgive me for having doubts that the Neumanns would blow my current system “out of the water.” I am sure the Neumanns are great, but my Satori Helios Textremes and BMR HT Towers are no slouches by any measure. Upon further research, I discovered that both pair produce lower THD in the midrange at high SPLs vs the Neumann 310s, Kii 3s, and D&D 8Cs. And the Helios have absolutely absurd bass dynamics for their size. They are one of two speakers I’ve owned that truly have zero need for subwoofer augmentation (though I use an REL Carbon Special anyway).

Further, when one considers the cost of the drivers in the Helios and BMR Towers (DIY and factory-direct respectively), the Neumann’s and similar ilk begin to lose appeal. I have a hard time believing Neumann are equipping their monitors with drivers that would justify >$300 each if sold separately. In other words, I’m unaware of any largish companies with marketing departments and dealer networks that are equipping their <$10K speakers with $300 drivers. And through my DIY experience, I’ve learned that price does generally correlate with performance when it comes to drivers. The caveats to that are some compression-driver tweeters and the Tectonic BMRs. 

Anyhow, last night I made some small position and EQ adjustments to the Helios’ and the resulting performance left me wanting for nothing. The performance was nearly as good as I recall from systems anchored by $50K Rockports and $100K of components, arguably better in some regards (at least better than the Atria 2s in terms of bass). I get that the Neumanns have the theoretical advantage of a dedicated midrange. However, my past experience is that a top-tier two-way speaker will often outperform a 3-way. It really depends on the individual driver quality and implementation. I’ve encountered quite a number of mediocre 3-way speakers under ≈$8K that were lacking in midrange resolution compared to mid-woofers in the $200/each range. 

No doubt the KH420s are a top quality monitor, but I think I’ve concluded I’m content with my current setups(s). It’s not as though my current speakers lack monitor-like linearity or distortion levels.