Why in some instances does changing streamers makes a bigger difference?


Or, I should say, sometimes a better streamer can make a positive difference. I read about this YouTube video in another thread on Agon and felt it was consequential enough to deserve a separate consideration here.

https://youtu.be/k-nCEoRWHZ4?si=EB-YW-ZlwBC_cNQL

I found this perspective helpful in trying to explain both my limited experience with streamers, and more generally why things like cable changes and power management can be so important in digital music reproduction well beyond 1s and 0s.

Your thoughts and comments invited.

kn

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@retiredaudioguy great posts, I agree with nearly everything you wrote.  

One comment caught my attention however. “If changing your streamer affects the sound IT IS YOUR DAC THAT IS DEFICIENT.”

Maybe.  It could be that a better sounding streamer is generating so much less noise back into the mains, or is generating so little EMR that, depending on the juxtaposition of boxes and cables on your shelf, and the amount of shielding in the cables and boxes, that lack of electrical noise could improve analog output of the system regardless of the quality of the DAC and it’s resistance to electrical noise arriving via the cable carrying the digital signal from the streamer.

To me, one of the interesting inferences from the video is to reinforce the notion of system dynamics, and how electrical noise control is paramount for maximum quality audio output.  How everything matters, including how your gear and cables are placed relative to each other, how good are your power supplies from the wall and in your components, how good your cables are at rejecting ambient noise (analog) or keeping noise inside (digital and power), and finally the synergy of your components with each other.

Given this, bench top measurements for individual pieces of equipment are just a starting place, and can never stand alone in judgement compared to tuning of gear and cables together in your listening space. And that takes time, money, and a willingness to experiment.

kn

@mattw73 your previous post alerted me to this YouTuber.  Appreciate your bringing him and his video on this topic to our attention.

kn

I have a mostly Laiv Harmony system and love it, but as for a streamer, I have used both a BlueSound Node and an Innuos streamer/ripper (ZEN MK3) and I found that a DDC inbetween them helped the sound I heard. A line conditioner up front helped as well. But given my age, chronic tinnitus and inability to claim that a wine is bold yet unassuming, my opinion might be of less help here. laugh

Personally I’m beginning to think my next purchase is an AC regenerator to connect DAC, streamer, phono pre and preamp to...that way I don’t have to worry about what’s happening with the local grid. The stereo amp itself would be a cost challenge, drawing up to 20A at peak vs less than 5A for the other components

South Korean YouTube channel HIFICLUB has some A/B server demos using high end equipment, mostly antipodes from what I have seen. 

https://www.youtube.com/@hificlub_kr