Denon X4800H bi-amped power on pop


Several months ago I got an X4800H to replace an aging X4200W.

I was very happy with it and all was well until I decided to bi-amp the main speakers.

This is using the pre-set configuration option of 5.1 (bi-amp) + zone 2. I am not using zone 2.

There was no power on pop with I was only doing 5.1 without bi-amp and without zone 2.

The pop is not loud and sometimes doesn't happen. I am guessing the pop only is happening when the amp is cold. If I shut it down and then power it on again after running for long enough to get warm/hot, it sometimes/often doesn't happen at power on power.

Please note this is pop heard coming from the main speakers not the click inside the amp.

My google-fu has not turn up anything and I am not a participant in any Denon forums.

travelinjack

Power off secondary zones and try the biamp. Are you using external amps?

In any case, a biamp using channels in the AVR (assuming it is a passive crossover speaker) sharing the same power supply is a bit pointless.

@deep_333 All secondary zones are power off.

 

I am bi-amping using the AVR since it has 9 separate amp modules.  The idea is to spread the load across separate amp modules and across heat sink.  I get the idea that since they share the same power supply that it may be pointless.

Lots of possibilities, don't have any denons, don't know for sure, but....

If it is "only happening with internal biamp", goes away completely when you remove biamp, it is a DC offset issue (woofer amp channel <-> tweeter channel) exasperated through the speaker’s passive crossover.

If you change the biamp channels, ie...swap the woofer and tweeter channel, the pop might sound a bit different, confirming the above.

Not good for the tweeter.

Stop the biamp.

( denon feature oversight...or something failed, hard to tell, not a issue with the speaker, maybe try updating the firmware or complain to Denon, they may release firmware with a fix.)

 

@travelinjack wrote

@deep_333 All secondary zones are power off.

I am bi-amping using the AVR since it has 9 separate amp modules.  The idea is to spread the load across separate amp modules and across heat sink.  I get the idea that since they share the same power supply that it may be pointless.

Do you hear any benefit with bi-amping?  If not just go back, but if there is a benefit you could just leave the Denon on as it doesn’t burn all that much power on idle and may actually be better than turning it on/off every day if that’s what you’re doing.  Frankly, your speakers deserve better than a mid-fi AVR and rather than worrying about bi-amping you’d be much better served by getting a good stereo integrated amp with a HT bypass and running the front L/R pre outs from the Denon into that — you’ll get much more out of those speakers.  Just my $0.02 FWIW.