That is especially difficult when you have come to love a particular cartridge. What I would like to be able to tell you is that there are often other cartridges that can be just as entrancing, even if different, but that is something you must discover for yourself. Retirement brings some benefits, but affording expensive cartridge upkeep isn't one of them.
Opinions sought: % contribution to sound by component — specifically cartridges
Hi, all!
I’m wondering if I can get some opinions on the contribution to sound of various components in an analog chain — assuming that all components are of a similar, highly-resolving/musical level; i.e., nothing out of balance.
Here is what is in my setup:
- Cartridge
- Tonearm
- Turntable
- Step-up transformer <> RIAA line stage [I’ll consider this one item — assuming appropriate gain for the output of one’s chosen cartridge]
- Amplifier
- Speakers
(Yes, I’ve left out interconnects, speaker cables, power cords, racks, room treatments, etc.)
The reason I ask is that I’ve built what I’ve felt is an exceptionally musical system over a 25+ year period that has withstood the test of time for me. The newest component is from ~2010. E.g., my amplifier is a Kondo-san-made / Audio Note Japan-branded Neiro Silver from the late 90s. I'm the original owner.
Some cartridges I’ve had in my setup include these LOMCs: XV-1s, Etna SL, Blue Magic Diamond.
Due to some changes in life circumstances, my Etna SL is no longer singing as it once did, and I may not have the means to get a cartridge near this level. I’m trying to prepare myself for what I may be giving up, so I welcome comments on that as well.
Thanks for your thoughts!
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@ebalog - In my case, the cart is responsible for WAAAAAY more than '5%' of the sound. Just be replacing a Clearaudio Charisma II MM with a Hana Umami Red MC gave me what I'd consider a 40% improvement in playback quality. Never had something so small had such an effect on my system. |
@ebalog I am not trying to undo your desire to return to Lyra, I was pointing out if funds are difficult to release, there is alternate options, with a typical cost known. Such a cost might have been more aligned to where you want to go. Never sounded the same as the Originals, is a very awkward statement for myself to accept as accurate. The ear receives sound and remembers much, but does it really know enough to be sure the Rain Drops hitting the Tin Roof six months ago were louder or quieter than the Rain Drops hitting the Tin Roof at the time of the current rain fall? Memorising Sound produced from a particular device is thwart with inaccuracies as the verbal description. Additionally, read the words of anybody producing Cartridges about each Cartridge produced having a same sonic and that will tickle them for quite some time. A surety is the Parts assembled being the same, very unlikely anything else from function will be identical, unique is fairer as the description. The Cantilever can be maintained and the Stylus is the only part to be changed, this is known off from a selection of Third Party Services, I do not know a OEM to do this, unless a Cart' Upgrade or different model is selected as the exchange. I have shared on the Gon, about a experience where Same Brands Models and Same Brands other Models have been Compared to each other. The Cart's had be OEM Standard, Retipped or Fully Overhauled Rebuilds/Redesigns. The Group at the comparisons made it known they were feeling confident the Stylus has very little influence on the End Sound Produced. It was felt that the overall structure of the Cart' and the method used for the Cart's assembly was the main contributor to the differences in sonics being noticeable. As an attendee and also done similar on other occasions since, I stand buy the groups assessment as being with an accuracy. Do also note their are Cart' owners who received their Cart's back and been once more in Service within 5 Days of taking the Cart' out of Service. Reports from these individuals can be found where they are elated with the New Cart's performance and can't remember the Cart' being as good. Who does one use as the more accurate report the 5 Day turnaround or the 180 Day turnaround to once more hear the sent away Cart' back in use ??? I will accept the 5 Day as my point of reference, but that is me, others may want to have a different approach. |
As others have indicated, this is highly system dependent. For my system, if I only count my vinyl source my turntable/arm/cartridge counts 25%, my step-up/preamp 15%, my monoblock amps 15%, my speakers 25%, and my cables/power cords/power conditioner 20%. I guess that the cartridge counts for 10% or maybe slightly less. Many people with good systems don't realize how important it is to use good cables. Changing cables often makes a bigger difference than changing a component. |
@pindac I respect your further thoughts. Your post is provocative and makes me reflect on many things. |
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