Tubes vs Tubeless


Hi,

Very, very (did I say "very") new to this adventure. I had a nice lower end, high end system 30 years ago and life got in the way and I had to part with that system. I now have a basic set up with a Belles Aria integrated amp with Vandersteen 2ce Signature speakers and a Linn DAC with a basic turntable.

I'm thinking of an upgrade and going full in on a dac system and leaving the vinyl to the side. I love albums but my collection is not huge, I'm getting older and I enjoy the simplicity of streaming music at the touch of a fingertip.

I have never owned a system with tubes and read in one of the forums about the Aric Audio systems and it really piqued my interest.

So, the question is, will there be a considerable difference in sound quality with a tube system of the Aric quality paired with a DAC or is the tube system a better advantage with vinyl?

Thank you

bahston

Thanks to all of the responses so far.

My goal is to get as close to natural sound as possible. Jazz and classical music as well as vocals, where I hear nuances in instruments would be the goal. 

I'd like to stick with the Vandersteens for now but am willing to spend $6- $9k for upgrades on amp/preamp. Great sound is a priority but I am a sucker for a cool looking rack that makes sense.

I understand that this is looking for the "God Shot" as they say in espresso nerd language.

 

 

My goal is to get as close to natural sound as possible. Jazz and classical music as well as vocals, where I hear nuances in instruments would be the goal. 

@bahston Fortunately electronics including speakers are not musical genre specific. 

If you go with separates a tube preamp with solid state amp is very popular. There are class D amps now that rival tubes in terms of sound quality. So you have a wide range of equipment from which to chose.

If you plan to keep the Vandys, I wouldn't recommend most tube amps. The 2ce is already a very "laid back" speaker and anything other than an Audio Research tube amp might push them a little too far in that direction. They need something with a little more "snap" to be engaging.

As always, IMHO and YMMV......

I would at least call John Rutan at Audio Connection in NJ - deep experience in pairing that work well driving  Vandy 2 variants.

I have no business connection to John other than happy customer.’

There are countless Audiogon threads and posts over several decades about pairing up Quicksilver Tube Amplifiers with Vandersteen 2CEs. Here are just a few, LOL :) 

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 My quicksilver silver 90s were originally paired...with Vandersteen 2ce and it was a nice pairing.

 Bought my original rig (2ces, quicksilver, audible...Still have the 2ce...

 br>I still have one of the SA-220s, a pair of Quicksilver...should be able to have a lot of fun with the new

 I love my Vandy 2ce Sig II’s (bought them new) - I...run them on Quicksilver M120 Tube amps and...

 Cary SLI 80 crumped

So please rate the following:1. buy quicksilver...150a for time being and then up grade to mi...

 Monostrapped Atma-sphere M-60

Quicksilver M-60 ( Replaced most likely by the...Bel Canto Dac 3 Vandersteen 2ce Sig ii<

 Amps under $5500 new or used

Canto Dac 3 (Will upgrade 2019) Vandersteeen 2ce...I have a set of Quicksilver M60’s with 655...

 Amplifiers

Others I may look at is Rogue 180’s used or Quicksilver...LX-elite Platinum) Bel canto 3 dacV...

 -I know the 2CE’s well and they are a very...my ears; this, including the already recommended Quicksil...

 Quicksilver Audio 120 Mono’s....Vandy 2Ce’s are already sweet sounding speakers so

 Great Stereophile article on a friend of mine, drummer Billy Drummond

An Audible Illusions Modulus 3A preamplifier feeds Quicksilver...amplifier, Tannoy Reveal mon...

 likely to upgrade LFE to V2W, add a 2wq, replace 2Ce’s...with 2Ce Sig II or Treo....explore any...

 Used to have Quicksilver M60 to drive my Aerial 10t...Quickies were driving once owned Vandy 2ce.

 Audible Illusions mated with Quicksilver and Belles...I like the Quicksilver Mid Mono’s....Plen...

 back in the day nice sold speakers With your Quicksilver...electronics the latest 2 K plus Vandersteen

 Agree the older 2CE Sig II olds are great IMO....I have some Quicksilver 70s and though they ar...

 Im using a Quicksilver Linestage (2010 Version) and...Quicksilver Silver 70s Monoblocks with Va...

 Still hard to say the 2ce I was running quicksilver

 depends what you plan to spend I agree with the above quicksilver...v4 are my favorite but the 2ce

 Don’t be fooled by the price of Vandersteen 2Ce Sigs...state is a good match with Vandersteens as well as

 

 Audible Illusions preamps with Quicksilver amps make...a great combo with Vandersteen 2Ce Sig 2’s.

 Quicksilver V4 or Silver 88 advice needed.....

I’ve compared an older first generation Quicksilver...V4 (green LED power switch) and a Quick...

 Vandersteen has also owned V4 Quicksilver amps as well...The newer 2Ce Signature II’s are also ...

 The current 2Ce Signature II is tube frendly as well...He has owned Quicksilver amps as well.

 Fullrange Speaker for Quicksilver Silver 70’s

I have a new pair of Silver 70’s with quicksilver preamp...I was recommended to look into the...

 Quicksilver, All....I currently have a pair of 2Ce sig2’s....A good 50-60 watt tube amp like a ...

 I drove this with Pass X-150 (pre- subs), Quicksilver...Vandersteen did at shows with Quatro’s) With the

 Your amp may just not be up to the task for the 2CE...They do very well with Quicksilver amps, ...

 Tone Arm Mass

Quicksilver v4sVandy 2CE SigPS 300

 Need advice on which speakers I should audition?

different equipment but for this system, I will be using Quicksilver...Fidelity Tesla’s, Mart...

 Vandersteen 2Ce Sig 2’s with Alpha Core AG-1 wire

using Alpha Core AG-1 bi-wire speaker cables with 2Ce...I’m running with Quicksilver amps.

 Alpha Core AG-1 Cables with Vandersteen 2Ce Sig 2

Core AG-1 bi-wired speaker cables with Vandersteen 2Ce...Audioquest is another choice I’m run...

 Give up on Thiel 3.6 or try another amp again ?

I’m now driving them with a pair of 90 wpc Quicksilver...pretty much no budget at all, so I’d...

 Best Bang for Buck - Time to Upgrade

(sideral caps, gold rcas, upgraded power cord)Quicksilver...KT 88 monoblock ampsVandersteen 2...

 have a dedicated listening room equipped with Vandy 2CE...Signatures, MF A5 CD player, Quicksilver

 Vandersteen 2CE amplification jumpstart-cables,sub

I have the Vandy 2CE s and they seem to need a little...Right now I’ve got a pair of Quicksil...

 I have it coupled with Quicksilver Silver Sixties and...Vandersteen 2CEs (I’m looking to add a ...

 You’re better off with 2Ce Sigs or Quatros....As for amps, the Quicksilver V4s are excellent

 I had the 2ce and had the same issues added the sub...I also would up using quicksilver v4 plen...

 The Vandy 2Ce Sigs have been a revelation to say the...Also someone told me Quicksilvers have s...