@kennyc You can stop your sifting. I've already sent you a link to a fantastic chair. 🤣 I bought two of them and they are high quality and extremely comfortable. Not sure what the Orange Man's tariffs would do but the company does ship to the US. As for real vs copy, Hermon Miller was the original manufacturer licensed to make an "original" chair in North America. While the Herman Miller brand still exists, the company is not the exact same entity it was in 1958 due to significant corporate evolution, including being acquired and renamed MillerKnoll in 2021. So the Cert of Authenticity is pretty pricey. A near perfect copy with the highest quality materials, at 1/3 the cost would seem to be the only way to go. IMHO