For me, this Audiogon forum is a good place; the other night I tried to reply on ASR to a gentleman who was asking for opinions, intended as subjective listening impressions, on the Straight Wire Crescendo and Acoustic Zen speaker cables. I was assailed by many members of that forum asking if I had performed double-blind tests and that, in any case, numerous scientific papers demonstrated that the only parameter that matters in speaker cables is resistance. Otherwise, all cables sound the same, as long as they're not broken or too thin. They called me a troll. I had to delete myself from that forum, and with great pleasure. This is my experience. I'd never been called a "troll.
Being attacked by aggressive people creates nervousness and resentment in the guest, leading to abandonment. It's precisely the climate that's poisonous, even before the scientific "method." IMHO
The Audio Science Review (ASR) approach to reviewing wines.
Imagine doing a wine review as follows - samples of wines are assessed by a reviewer who measures multiple variables including light transmission, specific gravity, residual sugar, salinity, boiling point etc. These tests are repeated while playing test tones through the samples at different frequencies.
The results are compiled and the winner selected based on those measurements and the reviewer concludes that the other wines can't possibly be as good based on their measured results.
At no point does the reviewer assess the bouquet of the wine nor taste it. He relies on the science of measured results and not the decidedly unscientific subjective experience of smell and taste.
That is the ASR approach to audio - drinking Kool Aid, not wine.
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Welcome here... The dumbest blindest people are often the half educated one ... I had the same experience the only time i went there ... Subjective opinion once banned because attacked then self censored transform anyone in a sheep zombie...
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ASR publishes what may be helpful measurements, BUT ASR is soooooooo into their limited thinking:
I highly suspect:
Sometimes I’m amazed on how stubborn some can get, some preferring to live a falsehood/lie than to face the truth of admitting they are wrong (self-esteem tied to right/wrong), removing the target of unaffordablity/resentment of perceived price gauging, their venting self righteous pity party. If a group likes to stick their heads in the sand, that’s their problem. Not worth the effort to try to convince them of their folly. @iani welcome to Agon |
@mahgister Thanks for the welcome - sheep zombie is a nice image... @kennyc Thanks to You too. It’s true, there are some interesting reviews about the measurements of the products; it was the main reason I went there every now and then.
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