move to a floorstander from Harbeth?


So, I’m pretty happy with my system but I’m getting that itch we all know so well. I’ve had my Harbeth C7es3’s for about 6 years now and still really enjoy them. I’ve gone through a few amps with them and they’ve shown the changes pretty clearly. I’ve used the Croft Phono Integrated, the Marantz PM-KI ruby and now have the Belles Aria. The Belles seems to bring out most of the best of these speakers short of a super integrated. I guess my question is: for a harbeth lover looking to move to a smaller floorstanders, what would likely satisfy and feel like an upgrade. So far:

Spendor A4

Neat Elite Classic

Dynaudio Contour 30 (would likely require and amp change)

maybe a Proac with ribbon tweeter if I can find one in my range…

I don’t have much to complain about with the Harbeths, at their best they are sublime. Would be nice to have a little more transient speed and more a sense of pace as they can feel a bit laid back. I know some of that comes down to amp as well. The only other “complaint” I have is with certain recordings (and some amp combos like the advance a12) I can really be reminded that the c7 have an aluminum dome tweeter, so I am looking for something with a nice soft dome, amt or ribbon. 

Looking up to about $3500ish used. Would love to find something good on TMR as their trade policy is helpful. They also have the Totem Bison Twin Tower and Tower. I’ve read great things but not sure if that would be a good move or a downgrade in some ways. Any other thoughts on this? Recommendations? Others who have moved on from harbeth, was there regret or was it a great move? Just fyi, source is an orchard audio streamer. Thanks for any help.  
 

 

clarinetmonster2

Had an interesting convo with Gene Rubin (who is one of my favorite people in the industry btw). Was picking his brain about the Harbeth/Spendor/Graham comparison. Obviously this is all subjectively his opinion but he loves the original C7es3 and thinks they are the best iteration - he’s not a fan of the xd’s and feels that they’ve become too bright. I asked him about a couple speakers in question - the Graham ls6f (although i think he was talking about the ls6) and in his mind he felt like it was essentially a lateral move and that the grahams he would point me towards are the 8/1 which are his favorites by far. 
We also talked about the Spendor A4 and he said in his mind it’s another lateral kind of move BUT he’s had a couple customers lately that switched from C7es3 to A4 and they both love them more than the Harbeths and are very happy with the move. 

 

wow, that's great info @clarinetmonster2 

I would love to hear and maybe own Harbeths some day. I will probably never listen to anything in my setup other than British speakers.

@clarinetmonster2 

I have never owned Harbeth but had the opportunity to live with some in my system for a few days.  They were the 7ES2 models.  They were very impressive compared to my Wilson Sophias in how full they sounded and filled my large space.  My immediate thought is my next speaker purchase will be a 40 series Harbeth, likely a 40.1 or 40.2.  Not knowing anything about the Harbeth line, I am surprised you or no one else has mentioned the 40 series on stands as your 'floorstanding' upgrade.  Is it simply budget or is there something unappealing about the 40 series compared to your model?

I think Gene Rubin gave you some great information.  It's going to be hard to beat the C7s at the budget you have.  I've owned all the Harbeths except the 30 and 40 series monitors and the C7s have been my favorite.  I have the 30th anniversary edition.  A friend had the 40.2 for a while and those were excellent, but not in your budget. 

The only speakers I've had in my system that I like better than the C7s are my Gershman Studio XdB speakers.  They have more body and detail than the C7s, but have a soft dome tweeter and never get hard or bright.  They also produce considerably more bass.  I think they might be a stretch for your budget though.

dhite71 Í always figured that the M40 iteration that I could potentially afford, if there is any, would be at least 20 yrs old or more. So yeah, have just always felt that they’re out of reach. It’s the only model in the lineup I’ve never heard. 
 

big_greg appreciate the words of wisdom maybe confirming what Gene has said. I’ve heard the gershman studios at a local dealer but never the XdB - wow, they seem impressive and pricey for me. Also, I found out that the dealer that would’ve given me a discount on any Spendor, has stopped dealing with Spendor…