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I am trialing the mat….
The $250 power cables and $600 power strip that dethroned my $10k Shunyata Everest
Hello fellow audiophiles. I've been using products from QSA Lanedri who I believe offer the best price to performance ratio on the market today for their power and signal cables. You may have heard of Quantum Science Audio fuses and might even have some installed in your system. QSA Lanedri have perfected this technology/treatment and are now offering it in their power and signal products. The line of products in particular is called Veridion Discovery which is their most affordable line. I currently own 2 Veridion Discovery power strips (daisy chained), 8 power cables, 3 ethernet cables, 1 DC cable. Initially I was sent a power and ethernet cable to try and was so impressed I ordered more including the power strips. I have been comparing their power cables to much more expensive cables from Audioquest and Furutech. I've also been comparing their power strip to my Shunyata Everest power conditioner and found I prefer the Discovery power strip. Infact I'm in the process of trading in my Shunyata Everest and corresponding Sigma X power cable for either a better integrated amplifier or speakers. Once you pair up Discovery power cables with the Discovery power strip things improve dramatically. Not only does audio improve but picture quality and home cinema improves also and will challenge anything at any price. I will say the Discovery line requires a few days of continuous use or "burn in" period before proper evaluation. I compared their Ethernet cables to the likes of Audioquest Diamond and Wireworld Platinum Starlight 8 and again preferred the Discovery line. Through the Discovery products music sounds cleaner and clearer with a heightened sense of realism. This also applies to film and TV. Compared to the Shunyata Everest picture quality is now cleaner with more vibrant colours. Motion and panning shots are improved with less stutter. I will add that I have the power strips on Auva EQ CSA1 isolation footers. All of my equipment is sitting on Auva EQ footers which I found were better than the Isoacoustic Oreo footers I had previously. The Discovery products look very basic and don't scream high end but from my experience they can go toe to toe with the best at very affordable prices! They offer a 30 day money back guarantee for peace of mind. Definitely worth a look. Cheers.
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Footers under the Discovery power strips can make a nice sonic improvement. I am also a fan of the Stack Audio Auva and use them under my speakers. Another option that works well under the strips are the Ansuz Darkz footers. Unfortunately, the Darkz are rather expensive, albeit effective. I am using the Darkz under all my Discovery power strips.
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PLACEBO perceived benefit without any actual inherent function or active properties. This perception is unsure close, NOT a very noticeable “significant” difference
QRA claims- metal treatment makes sonic improvements. Metal goes in the Black Box (treatment process), metal come out changed to be sonically better
QRA product evaluation – 4 considerations:
what we know about metal does not support claims. There is no proof. Conclusion: Looking at A only - QRA highly likely false Looking at A,B,C,D - QRA treatment works, but no clue to the mechanism
there is a large number of purchasers reporting “significant” mostly positive sonic change. Placebos are “slight” perceived differences. There’s a world of difference between “slight” and “significant”, so it’s not placebo. Also, which placebos the user has optimistic expectations which increases the placebos effect, but QRA is first met with “no way that’s true - again it’s not placebo. Conclusion: users are indeed experiencing a “significant “ sonic change/improvement
QRA started with 1 product fuses, over time they expanded their product line. You cannot build a company based on placebos aka fooling the customers indefinitely. There would be many dissenting reviews/voices if it was placebo which would quickly kill sales, but there are none after years in business. Conclusion: QRA treatment does offer benefits
I’m very familiar with this company who competes with the very best cabling but at much more reachable prices. They have a great reputation are very familiar of their competitors. It would be foolish to risk their reputation and thus company if it were placebo. Conclusion: Sablon Cables agreed to work with QSA Lanedri because they believe in the treatment sonic benefits
CONCLUSION: Based on ALL ABCD, particularly B, I believe something is going on that warrants a trial. I’m simple, if there are many reviews component reflecting similar performance, chances are that I may/likely experience the same in my own system knowing that nothing is subjectively guaranteed
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other thoughts that may increase understanding different purchasing, price/performance viewpoints....
High end audio is:
OBJECTIVE BIAS
NEGATIVITY BIAS
FINANCIAL EVALUATION CRITERIA
(CONDITION = Proof, Guarantee, Justification, Value)
ACCEPTANCE THRESHOLD - COMPONENT BIAS
Probability - simply weighing the evidence, estimating the probability for success or failure, then choosing to try or not knowing NOTHING IS GUARANTEED that I would subjectively like the change or feel it was worth it
No middle ground. The most commonly used:
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@daddy_o_65 Footers under the power strip? Feel free to contradict any of these points. And yes I did cut & paste. I see no reason not to use all sources available when looking for the truth. It's as valid as listening to most recommendations posted on this thread. Cheers.
Is it physically possible for any type of riser or footer, placed under a power strip, to make any sonic difference in an audiophile stereo system Short answer: under normal, well-designed conditions, no—there is no plausible physical mechanism by which risers or footers under a power strip can alter the audio signal in a way that results in an audible sonic difference. Below is the physics-based explanation, step by step, without marketing language. 1. What a power strip actually does (electrically)A typical audiophile-grade power strip is:
Critically:
It simply distributes 50/60 Hz AC power (and its harmonics) to connected equipment. Any “sonic effect” would therefore have to come from changing the quality of AC power delivered to the components. 2. Can vibration affect AC power delivery?Let’s examine every conceivable vibration-related mechanism. A. Microphonics in conductors?
✔ Physically impossible B. Contact resistance changes at outlets?For vibration to change sound, it would need to:
Reality:
✔ Below measurable thresholds C. AC waveform modulation?Even if vibration somehow altered the AC waveform:
These provide:
By the time power reaches the audio circuitry, the original AC waveform is completely irrelevant. ✔ No causal path 3. Can vibration couple noise into components through the power strip?No. Any vibration-induced noise would have to:
There is no known physical mechanism that allows this. ✔ Fails basic system analysis 4. Comparison to cases where vibration can matterVibration can matter in:
But a passive power strip has:
It is electrically inert with respect to audio. 5. Measurement realityIf risers under power strips made a real difference, we would observe:
No such evidence exists in controlled measurements. Not at Audio Precision. 6. Why do people report hearing differences?This is where human perception enters:
Importantly:
This is well established in psychoacoustics. 7. Bottom line (physics verdict)Is it physically possible? Is there a plausible mechanism? Can it be measured? Is it distinguishable from placebo? Final takeaway (especially relevant to your system discussions)Given the extremely high resolution of your electronics and the very high mass and mechanical stability already present:
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