New Preamp or go Integrated


My Vincent SA-32 preamp is starting to hum or make a sizzle sound periodically in the background. The unit is 6 yrs old and the tubes are soldered (factory) and not easily replaced. Since upgrading my speakers to the Dynaudio Countour 20i from Evoke 20, the noise has become more noticeable. I believe it’s due to the revealing nature of the Contours.

My plan is to upgrade with a $5000 budget, to either a new preamp or potentially consider an integrated setup.

Considerations for a preamp would be Mark Levinson No. 26 or PS Audio Stellar Gold for SS. For tube is was considering McIntosh C8, CJ ET7, or Rogue Audio RP-9.

Considerations for integrated would be Hegel H390 or McIntosh MA252.

Current equipment is the Parasound A23+,Lumin D3, Elac PPA phono pre, VPI Prime and the Contour 20i.

If I go the integrated route, I could potentially move up the price point from selling the separate units.

I always appreciate your thoughts based on past experiences,  along with other options in the preamplifier/integrated brands.

vette5451

Just giving my personal experience but last year I purchased a used Marantz SC-7S2 and was a CONSIDERABLE upgrade from either of my previous preamps sc-11s1 and the tube Schiit Freya+. I haven’t honestly spent a lot of time with integrated to truthfully compare but I certain like my separates. I saw a brand new sc-7s2 on ebay for $3999 and if mine wasnt in already great shape I would’ve pulled the trigger. It is a pure analog unit though so you wouldn’t be able to stream with it, and you would need to use quality (not expensive) interconnects from analog outputs of any sources you would want to use with it.

 

Anyways, my money would be on finding a preamp so long as you still really like your amplifier. Happy hunting!

That parasound certainly didn’t deserve a 5000 dollar preamp.

I highly doubt any 70+ year or even 45+ year old end user forum guy’s ears have some critical listening ability as good as the soundmaster guys at yamaha, , luxman, whatever.

And oh yes, the measurement....keep measuring till the day’s blue,,,,i am sure you’ll see a flat FR with all these amps and sinad within some ballpark. I’ve had a AP kit for years...It’s real boring, y’know, keep measuring sht that doesn’t have any major deficiencies, all within a ballpark of engineering competence, but, all sounds different... But, I am sure the ASR guys claim all amps sound the same, so you can sleep easy (don’t get all stressed out).

a) The A23+ was rated around 9/10 based on professional reviews, not anecdotal impressions from casual users / average joe like you. Under that context, it is difficult to argue that it is not a great piece of equipment.

b) You appear to assume you know the original poster well enough to discount his assessment, even referencing his age (over 70) as a basis to question his ability to characterize sound. That is an ad-hominem argument, not a technical one. Familiarity with a person’s age does not supersede objective evaluation of sound quality.

If the discussion is about audio performance, then it should be grounded in engineering, measurements, and critical listening criteria, not assumptions about the listener. Most importantly, try to control yourself and avoid personal attacks. Doing otherwise will only reflect your own shortcomings.  Do you actually understand sound reproduction well enough to refute the assessment on technical or sonic grounds?

I think the A23+ was a good value amp at it's original $1495 (when most of the good reviews are from), not so much at the current $2299...regardless, I would not spend for a Pass XP-12 or preamp in it's class for that amp...