Upgrading pre amp advice.


I am thinking about upgrading my pre amp (Bryston BP 25) for a pre amp which is also neutral but more musical/fluid and even more reveaIing. Also I want more 'depth' and better placing of instruments and voices. It's always hard to describe in words ; )

At the moment I have a dual mono (dual power supply) Nilai power amp, a Metrum Onyx ladder/NOS Dac (with the latest DAC3 modules) fed by an Auralic G1 streamer (upgraded with Hoerwege PSU) using semi open baffle Qualio IQ speakers.

Budget would be around 2000 Euros / 2350 US dollars.

When possible xlr (balanced) in and outputs.

I am listening to very different styles of music (Classical music, Rock, Jazz, Blues, World Music, etcetera)

 

vhond

My advice is to stretch your budget as far as you can, the preamp is a key component. And skip the combined DAC/pre setup. I have been through six preamps, including the LA4. I enjoyed the LA4, but in the end it was kinda sterile for my tastes. I also had a borrowed Ayre preamp in my system for a while. I liked it a lot, my only beef was the granularity of the volume, the steps were too big for my low volume listening habits. Of all the ones I tried, my favorites have been Pass and Audionet. Good luck with your search.

 

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vhond

I'd have to agree with what some others have said here, I think you really need to spend a bit more than your budget to get real improvement. One of the most important pieces of equipment I ever bought was my Aric Audio Motherlode XL, it made improvement in almost every category of sound I can think of.

Supratek preamplifiers are some of the best affordable preamps I have tried, I can recommend the 6SN7 Cabernet $3,500/$4,000 and the Cabernet DHT $4,000/$4,500 (6SN7 and 300B)......the 2 prices are for the standard finish versus the chrome finish, the chrome is worth the upgrade IMO; they are stunning preamps. If you can find them used, they are an absolute steal.....but only last a few hours or days on used sites.

The Aric Audio Super 6SN7 is a great preamp as well (though bested by their big brothers the Motherlode II and Motherlode XL). They are $4,675 new, or around $3,500 used, but they literally last for hours on the used market.

Here is a used Don Sachs Model 2 6SN7 preamp for $2,000. I have never heard one, but Don's reputation is impeccable. It will not last long https://www.ebay.com/itm/336354312156

I’ll chime in that the Don Sachs preamp is a brilliant piece.  It’s a refined version of the Tubes4HiFi SP14, which in turn is based on John Broskie’s "Aikido" preamp, which incorporates a noise-cancellation circuit that is eminently simply but quite brilliant.  It employs the most linear preamp tube in all of audio, the 6SN7, and takes it to new heights.  It features a quiet background and a natural distortion-free sound that is perpetually listenable.  My own preamp is a modified version of this and it never fails to be open and musical.  He’s stopped making them but if you can find a used one I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.  It puts out tons of music, regardless of your tastes.  Alternatively, you can purchase a new version of the SP14 from Tubes4HiFi.  IMO it’s one of the great bargains in high-end audio.

@vhond 

The main  differences I heard in my setup between the Ayre K-5xe- mp and the Musical Fidelity Ms8pre was the size of the sound stage the Ayre was more confined but no less enjoyable but the Ms8pre threw a sound stage that extended itself beyond the speakers whilst maintaining instrument placement a solidity, it wa s also more refined with a better sense of timber and hormonic structure . It also excelled at low level listening.