DAC recommendations under $7K


OK, my R11’s were destroyed by FedEx on the way to their new owners, and the check is OTW from FedEx in payment, so I am ready to buy a new DAC.

My digital equipment:

Simaudio Moon 330A

PSaudio BHK pre with Tele Medical tubes (also have Brimar & Sieman’s NOS tubes)

KEF Reference 3’s

Aurender N150

Chord Qutest with Sbooster + Ultra LPS

Transparent + Gen 5 speaker cables

Cardas Clear USB

Mogami 2549 interconnects

I am looking to spend less than $7K new or used. Size of the DAC is important, as I don’t have room for a standard width (17’) DAC and height is also a potential issue, so the PSaudio, Holo May, etc are out.  I ’thought’ I wanted warmer, but after reading the excellent "If warmth is distortion... " post, I think I want a W2W DAC, front row or conductor seat sound.

Perhaps best described as my Qutest, only better. Better imaging, soundstage, no digital haze, no digital etching... clearer, cleaner. BTW, I never experience fatigue with my Qutest, filter set on incisive with HF rolloff. I wear very good hearing aids, but as a result, my HF hearing above 9khz is non existent.

My N150 is USB output only & I listen exclusively to Qobuz PCM, so I need a DAC with excellent USB capability & DSD, Roon etc is not important. I want it to be only a DAC as I plan to keep my N150 & BHK. I don’t want a tube DAC.

My next upgrade is probably my interconnects with OCC copper.

My current #1 contender is the Bricasti M3, perfect size, nice industrial design, great USB implementation, W2W sound, great reviews, everything I think I need, very little I don’t.

ChatGPT describes the M3 as follows...

What the M3 sounds like vs your Qutest: 

Imagine your Qutest but—

  • cleaner

  • smoother

  • more open

  • less grain

  • more precise

  • more neutral

  • more “grown-up” sounding

Not warmer. Not colder. Not more aggressive. Just… higher-end execution of the same overall philosophy.

I know several of you don’t like chatGPT, but keep your replies to disputing it’s findings, not it’s use. For me, it is a part of a 3 leg stool, together with other research & input from this forum.

Other DAC’s that were/are in contention are the Holo Spring 3 KTE, Mystique X, Weiss 501, Chord Dave & Chord TT2. As I said, the PSaudio, Holo May etc are too large. I am sure there are more DAC’s to consider.

Before I pull the trigger on the M3, please provide your thoughts & recommendations. I want to make a very well informed purchase. Thank you!

signaforce

Wow

You have quite a lot to consider with all the responses and audiophile preferences.

Just adding my experience —

Current streamer set up with my speaker system 

N150 connected to 2 gb fios router

with Wywires Platinum usb to LTA Aero Dac with Ray Reserve tubes

Cadas Clear RCA to preamp

I prefer a full and engaging analogue midrange with good bass and not edgy or bright at the top end.

The Aero Dac with Ray Reserve tubes in this system is IMO outstanding — engaging midrange with detailed upper end, great stage and depth and impressive bass.

I burned in the Aero Dac with well over 1000 hours over a couple of months 

Most would say overkill is an understatement but having gone through this — well worth it.

 

Enjoy the search.

@foggyus91 I am sure you have planned everything perfectly and have an amazing strategy for success. I’ll take your word for it  

I’ve completed building my system (it evolved quiet a bit over a relatively short period of time), at least for foreseeable future - done with digital. Just putting on a few finishing touches on the analog front end right now as that part’s new.
I’m using a one box solution designed by a legend in the world of digital audio.
When I sit down for a listen I’m amazed every time with how this system strikes a balance between musicality and resolution. It’s really special and my digital front end is responsible for this experience. 
Happy Holidays to you! I’m over and out. 

I purchased an M3 back in 2020 (with MDx) and liked it, but personally found it didn't sound much different than the much smaller/lighter (and cheaper) RME DAC I also owned and sold it after a few months.

I then purchased a 2x in weight Mojo Audio MystiqueV3 which sounded much different and I kept it for years.  I then replaced it with a much lighter (and mostly empty box) Meitner MA3, and really liked that change, and kept it for a few years.

Now I have a shoe box size Weiss 204 (with a show box size LPS) and don't really miss the Meitner.    I guess the summary of my rambling is both price and size has not really made much difference for me personally with regards to DACs.

The one common piece used for all of these DACs is a Bricasti M5 streamer which sounds excellent using AES or SPDIF with any DAC I've tried it with...

Cheers

 

@danmar123 

Ive also looking at an Aero tube DAC. Please tell me how you like yours and how long it took to burn in the tubes. 
Thanks in advance