roon > dac basic question


I've been fooling around with some major changes to my system, considering all kinds of things, and I realized that I don't understand something pretty basic about running Roon. Does it matter if a dac is Roon ready? Isn't all the decoding done by the server/streamer?

My current set-up: Small Green Computer Sonic Transporter (running Roon core) > optical rendu > Bryston BDA2 (dac) > preamp >>>

It works just fine. I'm thinking of keeping the sonic transporter/rendu but swapping out the Bryston dac, possibly for an integrated amp with a dac. Do I care if that dac is Roon ready? Maybe another way of asking this: are all digital signals going into a dac (eg streamer, cd transport, PC) the same, essentially various binary combinations?

I hope this makes sense! I'm not so good with the technical side of this hobby. Thank you.

 

northman

Everyone is correct here but saying it differently.

Maybe I can further confuse things: :)

Roon consists of three parts:

-Roon Server this is the computer that runs Roon Core

-Roon Endpoint:  this is the streamer or bridge.  A Roon Ready or Roon Certified        streamer typically will run Roon AND may have its own software to run Music.     (examples are Aurender has Conductor App, Auralic has Lightening app, etc etc.

-Roon Remote: this is how to control Roon, usually an iPad or iPhone etc.

 

Now there are also Roon Bridges.  These typically run Roon but no other music playing software is offered.

I believe the Rendu's are Roon bridges, where they combine a computer to run Roon Core and also stream music  using Roon (but I am not familiar with these products).

While you don't need a dedicated (separate) streamer if you have an internal bridge, many find a separate streamer will sound better than a bridge imbedded in an amplifier or preamplifier.  

I have a MM Tambaqui.  It has an internal Roon Bridge and is Roon certified as an endpoint. But when I got a dedicated streamer (Auralic Aries), it sounded better;  More organic and lifelike.  Now I also have a Grimm MU1.  It Runs Roon Core (Server), and also is a Roon endpoint. It sounds very very good streaming to my Tambaqui, but offers no other music software than being a Roon Endpoint.  But it is as good as most two box setups, a Roon Core and A Roon Endpoint (bridge).

Finally, to actually answer your question, any streamer or combined server / bridge that is Roon Certified or Roon Ready can output music to your DAC.  It may do this with USB, AES, Coax, Optical, I2s or any  combination of these things.  So a 
DAC does not need to be a Roon Endpoint.  But if it is, it has an internal Roon Bridge or internal Streamer.

Happy Holidays!

The simple answer is, no, a DAC doesn't have to be "Roon ready."  All that software is in your streamer.  It only matters that the streamer and the DAC have compatible output and inputs, respectively--USB, optical, coax, I2S.  As long as you can connect the two units with one or more of those options, there's no problem.

No, in the most general sense your DAC doesn’t have to be Roon Ready. The DAC can be downstream from the Roon Ready equipment and thus be completely oblivious that Roon is used upstream. 
 

A concrete example is my setup:

Antipodes K41 - the server that runs Roon Core

to an (via Direct Ethernet)

Antipodes K22 - the streamer that runs Roon Endpoint

on to a (via USB)

Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC

The Tambaqui has no idea and doesn’t care what or that Roon is used upstream, it is only concerned with converting the streamer’s digital signal via its USB input to an analog signal it then passes on to my linestage (preamplifier).

(For a streamer/DAC combo unit it would be a different matter and that unit would have to (at least) be able to run as a Roon Endpoint.)