DAC recommendations under $7K


OK, my R11’s were destroyed by FedEx on the way to their new owners, and the check is OTW from FedEx in payment, so I am ready to buy a new DAC.

My digital equipment:

Simaudio Moon 330A

PSaudio BHK pre with Tele Medical tubes (also have Brimar & Sieman’s NOS tubes)

KEF Reference 3’s

Aurender N150

Chord Qutest with Sbooster + Ultra LPS

Transparent + Gen 5 speaker cables

Cardas Clear USB

Mogami 2549 interconnects

I am looking to spend less than $7K new or used. Size of the DAC is important, as I don’t have room for a standard width (17’) DAC and height is also a potential issue, so the PSaudio, Holo May, etc are out.  I ’thought’ I wanted warmer, but after reading the excellent "If warmth is distortion... " post, I think I want a W2W DAC, front row or conductor seat sound.

Perhaps best described as my Qutest, only better. Better imaging, soundstage, no digital haze, no digital etching... clearer, cleaner. BTW, I never experience fatigue with my Qutest, filter set on incisive with HF rolloff. I wear very good hearing aids, but as a result, my HF hearing above 9khz is non existent.

My N150 is USB output only & I listen exclusively to Qobuz PCM, so I need a DAC with excellent USB capability & DSD, Roon etc is not important. I want it to be only a DAC as I plan to keep my N150 & BHK. I don’t want a tube DAC.

My next upgrade is probably my interconnects with OCC copper.

My current #1 contender is the Bricasti M3, perfect size, nice industrial design, great USB implementation, W2W sound, great reviews, everything I think I need, very little I don’t.

ChatGPT describes the M3 as follows...

What the M3 sounds like vs your Qutest: 

Imagine your Qutest but—

  • cleaner

  • smoother

  • more open

  • less grain

  • more precise

  • more neutral

  • more “grown-up” sounding

Not warmer. Not colder. Not more aggressive. Just… higher-end execution of the same overall philosophy.

I know several of you don’t like chatGPT, but keep your replies to disputing it’s findings, not it’s use. For me, it is a part of a 3 leg stool, together with other research & input from this forum.

Other DAC’s that were/are in contention are the Holo Spring 3 KTE, Mystique X, Weiss 501, Chord Dave & Chord TT2. As I said, the PSaudio, Holo May etc are too large. I am sure there are more DAC’s to consider.

Before I pull the trigger on the M3, please provide your thoughts & recommendations. I want to make a very well informed purchase. Thank you!

signaforce

It wasn't me. It was the moderator. But I am not angry or anything like this. I was just surprised. I am not sure about rules either.

Of course I see the problem - this was a possible sale. But also was viewed as possible advice to person looking for a DAC, considering all feedback I receive from customers. I am also an audiophile with a very critical listening taste and experience. All my products are first designed by myself for myself. If they pass my listening taste - they become a product. If they don't - they go in the closet. So yes my deleted post was both sale and advice. I want to make a statement - I will never advice on audio product I don't like and just to make some money.

Sorry for my mistake.

Vlad

 

Thank you again for all your excellent recommendations. Any of the DAC's recommended would provide greatly improved sound to my system. There are no bad choices, and differentiation without listening to each is difficult. 

Many of you have owned / listened to most of these DAC's but with your system, your environment, your ears & your preferences for sound.

My top 3 picks easily could have been different, but IMHO best for me and my system. I have eliminated the Dave after listening to my system intently for the last couple days. I believe I need a little more warmth & a little less insiveness.  

I have made the decision and am currently in negotiations to buy the M3. Doing so will save me over $4.5K, will provide IMO 80-90% of expected improvements from the Tambaqui, I like its industrial design, it will provide some warmth, good resolution and imaging, great soundstage & should be a significant improvement over my Qutest.

I can take that $4.5K and buy a new turntable, take a great trip, buy another great watch... lots of possibilities. If I don't like the M3, sell it for the same or close to what I paid for it and buy a Tambaqui. Thanks again!


yep relying on chatgpt at this point is like consulting with a toddler. It’ll repeat whatever it hears. 

This

 

As I asked in the beginning, debate the results, not the use of chatGPT. The discussion on it's accuracy on Weiss is potentially valid, but I was not going to buy a 501 mk1 & the mk2 is outside my target price, aside from the fact that I did not want to pay for DSP on a DAC. 

I spent my career with IBM and saw significant technology changes through those years. My kids work for Google. What used to be a room full of DP equipment will now fit on your phone. AI is in it's infancy, but it's technology disruption IMHO will far surpass that of the cell phone. It is currently a valuable tool & is becoming better & better by the day. Inaccuracies are there but less and less.

I will continue to use it for multiple purposes (audio & other)... you each should make up your own mind on it's use IMHO.

@signaforce per your qoute "I believe I need a little more warmth & a little less insiveness."  I would again stand by my previous rec of the Aavik D-280.  It is lightweight due to the proprietary composite material used for the case/cabinet and has a small footprint.  More so I have had the Qutest, Holo Audio May, and the Aavik sounds like right up your alley.  It's not a DAC that is discussed much and so ChatGPT will likely overlook.  But go back and read the post from @abd1 which is pretty spot on as well regarding the D-280.

Quick search appears there is a used/mint condition available just search on hifishark.  

GL with whatever you end up with.  Cheers