DAC recommendations under $7K

@rsf507 

I know it is against the rules, technically, as admin gets no commissions etc. but personally I appreciate reading from dealers and manufacturers, some add very useful information which I enjoy reading. And I stand corrected as Vlad is not a dealer but a manufacturer. 

Just look at the Six DAC Comparison thread, where the manufacturer of the Mojo has extensive input in the posts, and first thanked the OP for the favourable reviews, and then provided extensive and interesting information on his DAC's engineering and philosophies, comparing it to other products, but now has described his recent products with pricing. No difference between that and what Vlad has done in this thread. But, it has over 100,000 views, that is alot of people in the thread viewing the ads which generate revenue for Audiogon. Where does one draw the line?

But what irks me is when they, the dealers or manufacturers, start telling everyone their product is better than others in the threads. That repels intelligent people from considering the product, and does more harm than good IMO. The other one I referred to is neither dealer or manufacturer- he just takes someone else's product and "upgrades" it, yet doesn't indicate this, there is no disclosure that this is the post from the person selling it. Deception. 

@rsf507 Thank you for catching the violation. You are correct.

I should say something like - check out Audio Mirror's line of DACs. Vlad maybe able to give you a discount. 

What do you think? Will this pass?

@audiomirror I assume you removed your own post? Shows more class than many others who post here. I am not sure of the rules, and don’t care to see them as far as advertising/posting from a dealer/manufacturers standpoint as it doesn’t apply to me. Maybe if you pay as a seller/dealer you are permitted to post? I dunno. 

Maybe we should allow @admin @tammyholt  to comment here and clarify the rules as to what you can or cannot say in the forums? 

people who seek to get useful info from this forum, especially newcomers, should always remember that with the anonymity of usernames w.r.t. the real persons behind them, there is often ’guerilla marketing’ happening before our eyes, people attempting to sway viewpoints purely in their own self interest

audio mirror, mojo, the shameless ps audio directstream mods fellow, several dealers, and so on.... many of these folks here... well, the honest ones at least let you know who they are, they are upfront about it... the much more pernicious actors employ multiple screen names and/or have "friends"/colleagues who post on their behalf when called on

always remember, when someone says something here, who are they trying to help?  do they only post when touting their product or service?  

on the flip side, there are a few, a very few manufacturers or dealers who are actually longstanding content contributors in a more neutral, broader sense.... ralph/atmasphere or scott/verdant as prime examples, who post frequently to share information, and not just to tout their wares

so --- click the username, click their profiles (how long have they been here?, do they post a system?, have they bought or sold things here with good feedback?  are they selling something here in the main a-gon section?), read their OTHER posts, see what discussions they chime in on ... it quickly becomes obvious whether they are here as a true hobbyist/discussion partner, or if you are dealing with a camouflaged sales/marketing effort

sometimes you see a poster with 8 posts, suddenly chiming into a discussion like they have been here for years... well you can be confident that they indeed have.... 

end of public service message.... carry on...

It wasn't me. It was the moderator. But I am not angry or anything like this. I was just surprised. I am not sure about rules either.

Of course I see the problem - this was a possible sale. But also was viewed as possible advice to person looking for a DAC, considering all feedback I receive from customers. I am also an audiophile with a very critical listening taste and experience. All my products are first designed by myself for myself. If they pass my listening taste - they become a product. If they don't - they go in the closet. So yes my deleted post was both sale and advice. I want to make a statement - I will never advice on audio product I don't like and just to make some money.

Sorry for my mistake.

Vlad