SS Amp Upgrade Thoughts (from Simaudio) with Magicos


Current System: Simaudio 330a amp, Simaudio 390 Pre/DAC/Streamer, Magico A3 speakers, Cardas Clear XLR, SC, Clear Beyond PCs.  Streaming only (Tidal, Apple Airplay and TV).  AI indicates amp is weakest part of chain.

Listening: Apartment, nearfield listening (6-8 feet), volume 50-75 decibels so not too loud, Rock, Alternative, Electronic Dance Music and TV running through it (2 channel only).   

Placement Constraints: Speakers about 18 inches from wall and can’t go any further.  Electronics in a console (open when using for ventilation) and depth is 18 inches but allowing for connections, amp depth would need to be less.  The current amp is about 14-15 deep.   The wife/designer approved console needs to stay.

Goals:  Current system is very good, detailed and wide soundstage (depth limited with close to wall speaker placement), voices sound natural.  Thinking that might be able to get more out of the Magicos?.  Interested in thoughts on stepping up to the next level within existing constraints (budget range $5-8k, used works).   Solid State only.  If the view is that minimal improvement would be achieved within constraints and relatively low volume levels, open to that as well.

Some Potentials: Benchmark AHB2, Coda S5.5 or 8, reconfigure to Boulder 866 with DAC and get relatively inexpensive streamer.  This list is based on internet research and have not heard these.  Others? Was interest in the higher level Simaudio Amps but they are unfortunately too deep to work. 

Would appreciate other members views on this. Tbanks!

dokosan

I have owned the Benchmark AHB2 and Coda # 8. I took the AHB2 to a dealer and hooked it up to the Magico A3. Terrible, not enough power.

The CODA #8 will work well as would the cheaper Schiit Wotan. However, let me suggest an amp that I like better than the #8 and the Wotan. It is a 20-year-old CODA #11. I see an expensive one on eBay. I paid $2457 with shipping last month for mine.

With my new Imsersiv D-1 DAC, which is a firehose of sound, the #11 was preferred a tiny bit more than the CODA #16 amp on my Livingroom Yamaha NS5000 speakers.

I moved my #16 amp to the office where I have a used $1000 Magnepan Mini speaker. I cannot believe how good the #16 is on the Maggies. Again, I use the Imersiv D-1 DAC on the office. A crazy price differential with the DAC and amp compared to the speaker but there is a ton of magic happening.

The #11 and #16 are my end game amps and both would be great with the Magico A3. 

I agree with the Coda #8 solution. I had this amp and it is very good for low volume listening.

I don’t have experience with the 390, but I have made significant gains in my low volume performance by improving the digital chain. Something to consider for the future.

I suspect your existing amp is enough, but you need to KNOW if that is true.

the question is: these speakers, this location, at my listening level, for content with dynamics, Will I benefit from more power?

btw, maximum component depth is _____?

I suggest you find something twice as powerful as existing that you can return, buy/listen/answer the question.

once you know the answer, keep/return what you used to get the answer

btw, I chose Furman Power Conditioner P-1800 PF R because it's capacitors store/deliver 45 amp peaks for the 'power in' side of those dynamic needs.

https://furmanpower.com/products/p-1800-pfr

I paid far less when an open box popped up for sale years ago

Before changing any equipment I suggest you try using some EQ adjustments.  You want more fullness and slam, but you listen at low volume.  The Fletcher/Munson curves show how this could be heard as a lack of fullness.  Older equipment used to have a "loudness control" to counteract this.  EQ can simulate a loudness control and it may solve your problems without changing equipment.

Take a look at Odyssey amplifiers.  I replaced a highly-regarded tube stereo amp with Odyssey mono-bloc amps, and the impact was astounding—superb imaging, sound stage, and instrument and voice tonal qualities.  I have the Kismet amps in the less expensive cases.  Odyssey also makes stereo amps.