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The $250 power cables and $600 power strip that dethroned my $10k Shunyata Everest

Hello fellow audiophiles. I've been using products from QSA Lanedri who I believe offer the best price to performance ratio on the market today for their power and signal cables. You may have heard of Quantum Science Audio fuses and might even have some installed in your system. QSA Lanedri have perfected this technology/treatment and are now offering it in their power and signal products. The line of products in particular is called Veridion Discovery which is their most affordable line. I currently own 2 Veridion Discovery power strips (daisy chained), 8 power cables, 3 ethernet cables, 1 DC cable. Initially I was sent a power and ethernet cable to try and was so impressed I ordered more including the power strips. I have been comparing their power cables to much more expensive cables from Audioquest and Furutech. I've also been comparing their power strip to my Shunyata Everest power conditioner and found I prefer the Discovery power strip. Infact I'm in the process of trading in my Shunyata Everest and corresponding Sigma X power cable for either a better integrated amplifier or speakers. Once you pair up Discovery power cables with the Discovery power strip things improve dramatically. Not only does audio improve but picture quality and home cinema improves also and will challenge anything at any price. I will say the Discovery line requires a few days of continuous use or "burn in" period before proper evaluation. I compared their Ethernet cables to the likes of Audioquest Diamond and Wireworld Platinum Starlight 8 and again preferred the Discovery line. Through the Discovery products music sounds cleaner and clearer with a heightened sense of realism. This also applies to film and TV. Compared to the Shunyata Everest picture quality is now cleaner with more vibrant colours. Motion and panning shots are improved with less stutter. I will add that I have the power strips on Auva EQ CSA1 isolation footers. All of my equipment is sitting on Auva EQ footers which I found were better than the Isoacoustic Oreo footers I had previously. The Discovery products look very basic and don't scream high end but from my experience they can go toe to toe with the best at very affordable prices! They offer a 30 day money back guarantee for peace of mind. Definitely worth a look. Cheers.

 

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roper
devinplombier
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However, I think that for the "cables matter" crowd (of which I am one), it is difficult to swallow the representation that they can take a cheap $5 monoprice cord, do some magical, secret and unexplained "process" to it and suddenly you have a better cord -- not just a better one, in fact, but one that surpasses what I consider to be an excellent power cable/conditioner combo, in the Sigma/Everest combo.

@moto_man 

The $5 cable as sold by Monoprice isn’t fancy but it is electrically adequate, therefore it would adequately deliver power from the wall to most hifi components.

Now, not all audiophiles are created equal; some, shall we say, did not receive the gift of critical thinking from the Creator. Those, given a $5 power cord, would rather hang themselves with it than listen to it, so they have absolutely no freaking idea how the cheap cord even "sounds", but they do know it sounds amazing when they pay 50 times more.

The cord sounds exactly the same either way, of course; but not unlike Pavlov’s dogs, they will argue that the expensive cord must sound better because it is more expensive and you get what you pay for.

 

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ionna22
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@westcoastaudiophile Physics to the rescue. 50A x 120V = 6000 Watts. I suppose you are in US where 120V is norm. Did you blow your fuse?
Let’s consider you are correct and you have abnormally strong fuses and abnormally thick wires inside your walls.
Let’s take 10-gauge wire then. It will cost you only several $ more and no fancy gimmicks. 
The voltage drop per 10-foot wire will be less than 1 Volt at 120 V and 50 Amps. Again, I am talking about continuous load which is much more strenuous compared to a variable load.

My final point in this conversation - you mentioned "good quality interconnects". They are all good quality. They are all UL (Underwriters Laboratories) certified, meaning they intend to do the load job properly. Otherwise they are illegal for use.
If, by any chance, your "interconnects" are not good, you are simply risking a fire in the house.

I am not trying to convince anybody. Only promoting a scientific point of view. A lot of people considered that quite helpful.

Have a great sound!

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faustuss
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@ionna22 Have you noticed that this westcoastaudiophile guy can't even manipulate the edit functions on this site. It's been decades that a person can do anything in the Tech, science or business world without basic computer skills and he wants us to believe he's the least bit creditable? For instance, he's just copying and pasting statements and placing quotes around them and when pressed on his claims such as the one I quoted below, you blow him completely out of the water!

@westcoastaudiophile "I’ve measured (scope) up to ~50A peak incoming current short time spikes in 400W amp."

You're response -

"Physics to the rescue. 50A x 120V = 6000 Watts"

As a lay person and experienced hobbyist, I'd trust your response!

willgolf
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It was briefly mentioned before but I thought it would further add to the context of this thread.  Beyond Roper and my feedback, Mark Coles, the owner of Sablon Audio, posted on WBF.  I do have a QSA-treated Sablon Audio Ethernet Cable in my system.  Mark has an excellent reputation for building high-quality cables and cords.  It is worth reading his comments and his partnership with QSA Lanedri.  
In essence, he took a very good cable that he built, gave it to QSA Lanedri, and, in his words, improved the overall SQ.  Should that account for anything?  Well, it is not a $5 cord selling for $250, but it is the same concept.  The sound of his cable improved after being treated. 

devinplombier
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@ionna22 @faustuss 

@westcoastaudiophile is correct. 50A transients in a 400wpc amp without soft start circuitry seems pretty normal.

The duration is in the milliseconds though, so nothing has time to overheat and no fuses blow.

Available short-circuit current (ASCC) is the measure of how much current a branch circuit can deliver through the breaker during a bolted fault condition (aka a dead short). For 14AWG wire it is if I’m not mistaken >500A.

 

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