Do I even need a dedicated stereo preamp?


Hi everybody, I'm new here. Been a lurker for a long time. 

My current system is dual purpose for music and HT. However over time, I have added dedicated pieces of equipment for the music side. The only standalone piece I do not have is a preamp. Here is my current setup. 

AVR: Anthem MRX 540

AMP: Buckeye Purifi 1ET6525SA 2 channel   

STREAMER: Eversolo DMP-A6 Gen 2

DAC: Holo Audio Cyan 2

So far I am incredibly happy with my setup. However, a part of me wonders if I would gain any sonic benefit from a dedicated preamp.  

I want to just full send it, but money is tight and I want to make sure I would truly have something to gain. That's why I am here asking all of you guys. If money wasn't an issue, I've been looking into Benchmark LA4 or the Holo Audio Serene. Another issue for me is I have gotten so used to using the Anthem phone app to adjust the volume say if I'm in my kitchen. I know I would lose that functionality.  

So from those more experienced than me, will I hear a noticeable difference between the preamp in the Anthem AVR vs a dedicated preamp? 

Thanks

musical404

musical404

As many have already said, you do not NEED to get a separate preamp.

You do however have to get one if you want to get the best sound out of your gear, and continue building a better system.

Like many others here, I much prefer tube preamps with both solid state and tube amplifiers.

One of the largest improvements to my system was when I added an Aric Audio Motherlode XL preamp, to my rapidly upgraded system. I've since tried many tube preamps in my system and others, and to me is one of the most important components.

So many choices! Still, I am fine for now until I have the funds or inkling to upgrade again. Mainly because my wife would kill me if I bought another piece of audio gear while I don't have a job. 

There seems to be some confusion here: yes, digital volume controls degrade sound but: no, you don’t need a preamp. Dacs operate with 2+V RCA and 4+V XLR output. Unless your amp has unusually high impedance that is plenty sufficient for a high quality analogue, i.e. passive attenuator, either built into the DAC or stand alone.

All a pre could add is distortion in that configuration. Pre amps were initially designed to boost low output from phono amps and attenuate. The former function doesn’t exist any more in digital music reproduction

I posted earlier about the HPA4 | LA4 | Serene preamps that I have all owned. Well, I finally found a DAC that I like direct to amp, and I bought it and I am selling the HPA4 (on head-fi). 

The former function doesn’t exist any more in digital music reproduction

@antigrunge2     This statement is false. The output level that any digital device is designed for is 2 Volts as defined by redbook. 

That was a bad move on Sony and Phillips' part since that means the signal will always have to be knocked down to a lower level to be usable. 

One of the functions of an active line stage that is poorly understood is that of controlling artifacts in the interconnect cable. Passive devices fail in that regard but sometimes you get lucky and hit on a combination of cables that sort of works. That' s why you see this argument going on and on.

The argument also goes on and on because some line sections are not very good at controlling the cable or just aren't very good. 

If you've ever auditioned cables to see which is better and heard a difference, that is the artifact I'm talking about. Some preamps can eliminate that entirely.