This hobby is for hedonists, not scientists

You do realise you have just burnt the cakes and upst all the bakers out there.

@mylogic - Either "no man is a prophet in his own land" or "I'm not here to make friends".  One of those two lines applies in this situation. 

Will leave it as….. In no man’s land, there are no friends.

@mylogic

The West Coast versus the NY ones…… two kinds of cooks and tastes.

Not necessarily. I and Joy Bagels in Encino (L. A. area)  made the real thing. Whenever I had to drive through LA in the late 70’s/early 80’s, I'd make a point of stopping to pick some up. 

...and you can find plenty of sub-par bagels back east. But who can best discern the differences-- scientists or hedonists?

@dynacohum and…bagels.

They have to made using the local water supply. Both urban and metro NY as well as Boston and metro have the advantage pristine man-made water supplies piped in from vast distances through aqueduct systems built up over the last couple of centuries. Quite forward thinking I think and also produces the best tasting bagels!