If the chair is behind the ears, then that’s another zapping issue. That’s a critical bit for the Carlos269 balance perfect sound cocktail.
I’m also baffled by the cell phone being almost the same as one’s system. That (close your eyes) center stage effect and various instruments to one side ain’t happening. So forgetaboutit; no soul stirring elation there.
Striking a balance between musicality and resolution
As my years and experience in this hobby continue to grow I notice a divergence between those seeking extreme resolution and detail from their music reproduction systems and those in search of maximum musicality.
In theory, high-end audio systems should provide more than garden variety stereo systems. In my view that means more detail and information should be heard from a high-end music reproduction system than one hears from ordinary HiFi stereo systems set ups. BUT is there such thing as too much resolution and detail in a stereo system’s sound presentation?
Some people feel that a less detailed presentation that is easier for your brain to process has better flow and provides more enjoyable listening.
So there is the dichotomy. Should one pay more to hear less? Can a frequency response performance that is curtailed at both frequency extremes be desired and praised?
Those that seek a “more musical” presentation usually point to their belief that that is how they hear live un-amplified acoustic music in the real world. In nature, high frequencies attenuate and decay with distance from the source and sound waves get absorbed, diffracted, reflected, and diffused by the environmental factors and landscapes; so they are not wrong in stating that in the real world the sound of music is less detailed and extended. The issue is that when we listen to our music reproduction systems at home we are not listening to live un-amplified music in a concert venue, but rather professionally produced audio recordings typically recorded with close-microphones techniques.
So the question is, do we want our systems to reproduce the sound on the commercial audio recordings accurately or does one want hear the sound the way one thinks that it should sound?
Lucky for me, I have enough systems at home that I have been able to design, set up, and tune them for different targeted resultant sound, sound presentation, and sound qualities. For instance, my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system is a dissecting microscope, my Pinnacle horn system aims at extreme musicality, and my WAAR reference system is a chameleon, which can be adjusted to sound exactly how you want it to sound in real-time.
My “test-bed” system takes on the sound character and sound qualities of the components in use and it is excellent for evaluating what new components have to offer or bring to the table in terms of sound qualities. But with the Acapella TW-1S ION plasma super-tweeters extending the high frequencies, the TBI Emperor subwoofers extending the low frequencies, and the highly detailed & nuanced Digital Audio Denmark AX24 DSD dac streaming HQPLAYER as the source, the “Test Bed” system is a highly resolving system.
As with everything else in life, is there a happy medium or compromise that gives you the best of those worlds? I believe that there is and that great music reproduction systems can be tuned to strike a balance between musicality and resolution. If one listens to the evolution of my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system for instance you can hear that the fine tuning is driving the sound in that direction.
So during last night’s listening session I adjusted the sound of my “Test Bed” system to a more musical sound presentation. The “Test Bed” system is always in flux so it allows me to experiment, explore, tweak, tune, and have fun with it.
Here is an audio recording from last night’s listening session that captures the revised sound presentation and conveys the sound qualities that exemplify a more organic sound versus a more delineated & resolved sound presentation:
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Dear @wsrrsw : In reality he has very low knowledge ( even that he presdent in this thread as some one with highly knowledge levels and skill. ). In no one of all the systems he owns can listen in a decent way MUSIC ovbiously for what you posted bu additional and main critical because in all his systems has a way deficient BASS FREQUENCY RANGE and with that bad bass range all is " hidden " down there.
He took his time to show post after post his ignorance and he likes talk and then the problem for him is that he follows posting showing at each post that goes/gone showing his deep ignorance levels in the audio/MUSIC main subjects.
Btw, room treatment is critical and especially in the bass range. Go figure with this gentleman.
To each his own.
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@mahgister I also respect you very much and I appreciate how much effort you have put into the understanding and have made use of room acoustics and psychoacoustics, which are both fundamental parts of sound reproduction and perception. Like you many focus on key elements of sound reproduction and strive to maximize them. At one point I also viewed each contribution to sound as an opportunity for optimization. I’m a firm believer that the cost of home stereo systems is not a direct indicator of their sound qualities and the systems’’ performance. Often times the very high value systems are set up by dealers or paid set up persons as the owners don’t know much about sound reproduction and they view their systems as status symbols and purchase them for pride of ownership. Costs is typically not indicative of performance and sound quality. Since I value the way you dove into the room acoustics and psychoacoustics aspect of sound reproduction in the home, I will make some recordings of one of my systems this weekend playing the same songs that are on a couple of audio recordings of a system own by a well known and respected audiophile who has a very well sorted out, mature and optimized tippy top, spendy system for you to compare the sound of a very expensive system in an acoustically optimized custom dedicated sound room, which was acoustically engineered and bespoked built for the sole purpose of reproduction of music at “the highest level” with no expense spared. This way you can compare the sound of the systems for yourself. |
Dear @wsrrsw : his main trouble inside an audio forum is that he did and does and listen to a way different recording reproduction ( that the one we all are enjoying ) due that he manipulates the recorded signal and creates a totally new recording different of what comes in the original recording and he evaluates other audiophiles room/systems against his manipulated recording and not with th orinal recording. Yes, he can do whatever he wants due that's his unique privilege but for me and with all respect looks as something " stupid/stupidity " and not because he is stupid because it's not. I only post what for me is the whole enviroment that surround him.
R.
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Anyone tuning a room do it for a located listening chair position... The acoustics of great Hall differ greatly from small room acoustics , same principles, completely different application... And it is a sophism to conclude that no acoustics passive treatment or no active mechanical control was necessary (or DSP ) because you claim by suggesting it ( no acoustic treatment is better Your understanding of the power of acoustics is average , most people had no idea even audiophiles how acoustics matter ( it is a market conditioning imposed by speakers and gear sellers: buy our product you will need anything else).. A thing i learned ... By the way my homemade dedicated room was horrible esthetically ...
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