Speaker Placement - Frequent Placement Changes?


Curious about members and the frequency of speaker placement changes. Do you frequently explore or do you “set it and forget it”? 

This includes toe-in, rake, distance from walls and main listening position (MLP), etc.

I find myself revisiting every few months, and always receiving an education about my not-so-perfect acoustic living environment - bass null about 12” in front of MLP for example.

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toro3

I believe REW helps in gross placement of listening position, mains and subs, but when I make minor adjustments of a half inch or a couple degrees, the data does not really change. The ear rules once you get close.

 

 

Agree, REW, painters tape, laser measuring tool, and room treatments (if able) are all wonderful tools. For some, and if their component allow, digital room correction (rather room mitigation) can be a game changer - I have my personal thoughts from experience, but I’ll just say that I prefer a more organic approach using a combination of furniture and treatments throughout the space. 

I also agree that AI and ChatGPT can be useful - curious where this will go in relation to room acoustics and speaker/listener placement and whether new programs will be created; something like DIRAC + AI. 

From what I’m gathering, it seems like a good portion of users are “set it and forget it” after finding ideal placement, which makes sense. I would imagine having a dedicated space would likely be a factor in this equation whereas users like myself may need to tweak and experiment with their shared living/acoustic spaces. 

Not to get too far into the weeds since this is just personal experience, but I’ve found adding a second subwoofer, spacing the speakers closer together (preferred tonality), bringing the speakers further into the room, and bass traps to be the greatest impact so far for me. 

And +1 tcutter

I advocate having flexibility to alter toe-in for one centered listener, and two off-center listeners, using DBX Crossfield Dispersion Method

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/11516

2. Single Listener: tweeters each side aimed at listening position. To keep volume of narrow dispersion high frequencies relative to volume of mids and upper bass

 

3. Two Listeners: use DBX Cross Dispersion Method: right tweeters aimed at left listener; left tweeters aimed at right listener. Result: wide decent enjoyable imaging, each listener hears ’enough’ of the opposite side.

@toro3

If you are ever around southwest Michigan, give me a holler, although it appears you don’t need much, if any, help with your system(s).

@elliottbnewcombjr in passing I vaguely remember hearing about DBX Crossfield Dispersion Method, but quite honestly never researched further until this evening. Do you need a specific speaker for this method? I’m intrigued because there was mention of greater soundstage width that provides a stronger sense of atmosphere. Your virtual system is exceptional, especially with the amount of detail that’s discussed concerning placement - maybe one of two systems that has this much content about placement.

@tcutter I’ve never been to Michigan, but every person I’ve met from that neck of the woods has been pleasant to interact with down here in AZ, as well as other travels. I’m sure it’s beautiful up there with the leaves changing. That’s one of the things I miss about Seattle.