Grammy for AI generated music

Excellent post as usual thanks ghdprentice

 

But you miss something here which we can perceive only if we understand the tetrad of factors by  McLuhan easily the greatest thinker about technology history and understanding...

if you read my post you will see i add a fifth factor unknown to McLuhan who died before A.I. N. N. LLM revolution 5 years ago...

This 5 th  factor explain why this revolution we lived through has everything in common with the past one, but something new never seen and never understood as possible before ..

This analysis is impossible if we dont understand language and technology history as one history as demonstrated for the first time by McLuhan in all his books ( Try laws of media and understanding medias) ..

Now language and technology are no more only common  human property and characteristics...(insects or crows and apes has also both but not in the way our language created  cumulative history ) 

the 5Th factor is the auto-destruction of humanity (not terminator like but  as a hive divided between elite cyborgs and destituted human) this factor is named a "progress" by transhumanist and oligarchs..

The 5th factor consist in the separation of human language from technology and the separation of human technology from A.I. language.It is the first time in history where human were destituted from human  language ownership and  human technology ownership...This is called a "progress" but it is not, this progress has a cost: the lost of our human nature and of our threefold free social fabric for a hive ... The transhumanists know it well ...

This is social and individual auto-destruction...

Why?

Am i against A.I. technology to cure cancer ?

No...

But the race to A.I. is not a race for a better tool but for a master to dominate the rest of the world...

Our threefold free social fabric is replaced under our eyes by a totalitarian dream soon coming true with UBI  and digital control ( Ask Larry Fink how and why ) 

 

Now if you dont think  about the way speech and technology are human creative attributes as ONE phenomenon as described by McLuhan and do not understand   how they  relate to each other as one power as described by McLuhan genius in his letter above, feel free to call me a Luddite ...

 

 

«Did you claim that my phone is a metaphor?» -- Groucho Marx 

 

 

Sounds familiar... that is why you always want to be on the leading edge of change, not the trailing edge. 

1. Steam Power (James Watt improvements, 1760s–1780s)
Steam engines replaced muscle power (human/animal) and waterwheels.

• Allowed factories to be located anywhere, not just near rivers
• Powered machines, railroads, ships, pumps
  This was the beating heart of the industrial age.

2. Mechanized Textile Production (Spinning Jenny, Water Frame, Power Loom)
Before this, cloth was made at home by hand.
Suddenly:

• Yarn and fabric production exploded
• Cloth became cheaper and more widely available
• Small cottage weavers were pushed out by large textile mills

3. Iron and Steel Production (Puddling process, Bessemer converter later)

• Allowed mass production of stronger metal
• Built railroads, bridges, machines, factory tools, weapons
  This literally built the infrastructure of the era.

4. Railroads (early 1800s)
Before trains: travel and shipping were slow and expensive.
After trains:

• Goods could move fast and far
• Cities became connected
• National and global markets formed
• People could live and work farther from birthplaces

5. Coal Mining Expansion
Coal powered steam engines.
This created a kind of energy revolution — the first large-scale shift away from wood and muscle.

6. Telegraph (1830s–1840s)
The first instant long-distance communication.

 

A. Rise of Factories and Decline of Home Production
People moved from cottage industries to mill work.
This meant:

• Work schedules now set by the clock, not the sun
• Labor became repetitive, specialized, and less skilled
• Workers became replaceable (and knew it)

 

I am very concerned about AI alignment. But putting that aside... change is typically considered unique and bad this time:

1. Socrates (5th century BCE)
Yep, the Socrates. He warned that writing would destroy our memory and our ability to think deeply.
He said people would “seem to know much, while actually knowing nothing.”
Basically: “Kids these days with their papyrus scrolls…”

2. Plato (sort of continuing Socrates)
He argued that written language would lead to shallow understanding vs. living dialogue.
Plato feared technology would degrade the soul’s relationship to truth.
Ironically… we know this because Plato wrote it down.

 

3. The Medieval Church (15th century) — Against the Printing Press
Leaders feared mass printing would:
• spread heresy
• destabilize authority
• create too many opinions
• encourage the “uneducated” to think for themselves
They were… not wrong.

 

4. The 18th & 19th Century Romantic Poets (Wordsworth, Blake, etc.)
They feared industrial machines would:
• crush nature
• destroy the human spirit
• turn people into cogs
Blake literally wrote about “dark Satanic mills.”

 

5. The Luddites (1811–1816)
Actual textile workers who smashed early industrial factory machines.
Not anti-technology per se — they feared technology owned by capital replacing skilled labor and dignity.
This one was more “class-war alarm” than “the robots will eat our souls.”

 

6. Henry David Thoreau (mid-19th century)
Railroads, telegraphs, and industrial society:
His view: “We do not ride on the railroad; it rides upon us.”
Translation: technology changes us more than we change it.

 

7. Leo Tolstoy (late 19th century)
Hated industrial modernity.
Saw it as a betrayal of spiritual life in favor of materialism.
Wanted simplicity, manual labor, and spiritual clarity.

 

8. Friedrich Nietzsche (late 19th century)
Distrust of mechanization and bureaucratic modernity.
Feared mass culture would crush individual greatness.
Would have loathed Twitter.

 

9. Martin Heidegger (1950s)
One of the most influential modern critics of technology.
Feared that technology makes us view everything (including humans) as resources to be optimized.
That one… hits hard today.

 

10. Jacques Ellul (1954) — The Technological Society
Argued that once a technology exists, society becomes shaped around it, not the other way around.
Efficiency becomes the god.
Influenced basically every thoughtful critic afterward.

 

11. Neil Postman (1980s–1990s)
Amusing Ourselves to Death.
Television and mass media, he said, would turn politics and knowledge into entertainment.
He predicted the rise of spectacle-based politics with terrifying accuracy.

 

12. Jaron Lanier (2000s–present)
Early VR pioneer turned tech-skeptic.
Critic of digital platforms, attention extraction, and “flattened identity.”
More “gentle warning” than doom.

 

13. And yes… Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) (deeply problematic but relevant)
His manifesto argued industrial technological expansion would eliminate human autonomy.

@au_lait - those are good points all!  In my view, though, art doesn't require anything but the artist's intent. 

@mahgister  The Rick Beato video he says... " I could just cover this song and says it's my song"  "They are NOT my songs they are actually versions of other peoples ideas."

Isn't that the evolution process of music? Rick went to school and studied 'other peoples music' for years. All genres and styles are taken from previous artists. That's why they sound similar. They all look and listen to other artists! Mick Jagger studied James Brown and developed his own version. Guitar licks from Van Halen or Jimmy Page have been modified endlessly.

Producers of music want artists to ...produce.   Taylor Swift is producing music albums at an incredible rate. Do you think she writes them all on her own? No way. 

It all about money...

For years talented song writers were paid for their creativity. Now AI does it free and has been used by top artists for years. It's simply faster to produce.

That song would take Rick Beato a long time to create on his own. AI did it in no time and the result even surprized him. He actually thought the end result was quite good.

He would like to censur and eliminate AI. Why? Because no one can make money. BTW... Suno makes millions and creates jobs for people to live on. How about that!