How long should components last?


About 7 or 8 years ago I bought two tube components. A cd transport and DAC.

About $4,500 each back then so who knows how much they would cost today.

After 5 years ago they started breaking down. The transformer failed in the DAC and as the european manufacturer had discontinued the component it had to be made from scratch in Italy. Of course it took months to get it made and sent to the US where the component had to be repaired. The Dac had to be repaired twice since then. I finally said enough and bought another brand.

Same with the transport. After 5 years continuous problems.

They sounded great and certainly looked the cost. But I had the impression that they were like German luxury cars with a perfectly timed obsolescence. After which you have to buy another one or they turn into a money pit.

Unfortunate because when they worked they were wonderful.

I can't name the brand because I'm sure the thread will be removed.

Has anybody else had this problem? For such expensive components I thought they would last longer and would not turn into such a problem when they needed to be repaired. Is this normal? 

 

roxy1927

I did have that same experience, perhaps 15 years ago with a very high-end AV receiver that failed after about 36 months, just beyond the warranty period.  The manufacturer had moved on to the next model--cosmetic changees and more power but little else changed--and my model was discontinued.  I figured it should be easy to fix, but, no.  It seems this model of receiver had a very unique computer chip in it that had flaws, causing the chip producer to halt production.  Moreover, there was no way to reprogram things to accept another chip.  So, an AV receiver from an elite line of products bit the dust.  Fortunately, my dealer, from whom I had purchased a number of components, took mercy on me and sold me another brand AV receiver at what I am sure was pretty close to his cost.

I have NOT had a similar experience with manufacturers of my audio equipment.  I have upgrade my 1980s/90s system over the past four years, and everything I have purchased is working just fine.

 

Sorry I couldn't answer your DM Roxy but the answer is I have been in this hobby a long time and recall hearing similar stories about them.   

It’s really all about probabilities. The probabilities of failure get lower with higher quality of design and construction, they never go to zero... but come pretty close. They seldom get into double digits on the other end.

Then there is the probability that you get one that fails and the age of the unit.

Flying is unbelievably safe, but someone was on the modern plane that crashed. flying on a commercial airliner is safer than flying in an old single engine plane in the jungle somewhere.

@corelli,

Doesnt look like an easy fix to me.  There is no way to fix it without removing the transport, something which I will not do. 

@stereo5  

My apologies. My past experience with Philips transports made this an easy fix.  i did a quick search. Not sure if you saw this thread

(https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/esoteric-p02-belt-replacments-proper-size-question-any-tips-or-sugges)

but it suggested an absolute nightmare of a job on this Esoteric transport.  So, so disappointing that a high end manufacturer would design a unit this poorly.  I mean, all CD players in time will need new belts. Belts usually go bad far before the laser does.  To shell out that kind of money and end up with a boat anchor vs. an absurd repair cost is inexcusable. Man, I share you frustration and I do not even own the piece!

Can you share the exact model number or info on the exact transport?  I am not ready to give up yet!