Is ASR for real, or is it only for those sub $1k or even sub $2K?


I did some browsing on the forum and it seems like most don't own very expensive gears.  Most of them own mostly sub 1K or 2K gears.  

I recently ask about feedback on the Polk R700 but after about a month with no responds.  I did a search "ASR Polk R700", with all but one poster which actually owned a pair.  Most of them would point you to some measurement and some theoretical discussion but non actually own a pair.

I also looked at a few posts on budget speakers such as the Kef Q7 or Polk R600, but I didn't see any actual owners responding.  

I don't mean to knock on them but ASR seems like a lot of hype but very little substance.

andy2

I'm developing a debunking resource for audiophile myths and collecting together all the relevant arguments and counter-arguments. I see it as an interesting intellectual adventure in philosophy of science, like going to flat Earth conferences and seeing what works and doesn't work against the faithful!

@markwd 

Well that ought to keep you busy for a good long time! I look forward to it :)

are you serious?

@mahgister Can you provide here one testable claim that shows a flaw in Amir’s approach?

you did not understood a word of what i said it seems...

 Amir has no flaws , it is worst than a flaw  all his methodology is grounded in a misunderstanding of the nature and working of hearing...

Asking me this question proves to me you had not read nor understood what Kunchur, Van Maanen, Magnasco and Oppenheim. Akpan J. Essien and the others  many  experiments said about hearing...  Have you read the two articles i posted about timbre perception and their impact on acoustics understanding ? 

No it seems...

Bodily maps of musical sensations across cultures

Timbral effects on consonance disentangle psychoacoustic mechanisms and suggest perceptual origins for musical scales

 

 

 Why dont you ask Kunchur opinion the expert is him not me ? i am only someone reading him and others:

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Mr. Majidimehr has serious deficits in his understanding of key concepts:
(1) Signal analysis for evaluating audio fidelity has 2 broad domains: Frequency (spectral) and time (temporal). To focus on only one of these is like approaching audio assessment with only half a brain. A spectrum analyzer focuses on only the first and is not best suited for studying impulse response and transients, which are  influential in defining instrumental timbre. Also Fourier
representations cannot properly describe transfer functions of non-linear and non-time-invariant systems. Mr. Majidimehr’s instrumentation and basis of analyzing audio fidelity is fundamentally
flawed.»

 Why do you think he say that?

Why he is right ?

Because as demonstrated by among others Magnasco and Oppenheim about the Fourier uncertainty  and hearing, we need an "ecological theory of hearing" ...

What is an ecological theory of hearing ?

Do you think Amir know and understand the founder of ecological perception theory one of the greatest psychologist of the last century J.J. Gibson  working for the army of US studying the gaze of pilot driving their plane on aircraft carrier ?

No...

 And you ask me what is the flaw in Amir methods and his use of his tools ?

His flaw is his ideological imposed interpretation of his set of measures as the truth replacing hearings by his dials..

He market ASR he did not scientific research...Kunchur and the others scientists i quoted do science....He mocked them to make a point here discussing his site... thats all ...

A tool manual as dogma  is not science... 

 

 

 

 

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On a different note, why is it that just mentioning acoustics + Amir in any thread causes it to balloon like cow intestines left outside in 100 degree heat? Just wondering