The only problem I see here is that the OP is using an HP laptop to Use as a streamer. Until you’re ready to jump into the deep end of the pool, you are always going to have this kind of conversation of bit is bit. Getting a dedicated streamer from any of the big three InnuOs, Aurender or Lumin You’re just spinning your wheels. I have no clue what Tom foolery these guys are doing, but they’re smacking the heck out of a laptop streamer.
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Being a retired IT tech, Iʻm a "bits is bits" guy. I keep seeing people rank different streaming services against each other and I have to say, Iʻm mystified. Modern recordings are all digital masters and remastered. If two different hi-res streaming services, say Qobuz and Tidal, have the same track available, why would one sound different from the other, let alone better?
The stream is being fed over TCP/IP from the source, and I see no reason that it you were to do a cksum on the same file/track being delivered by either streaming service, that they would exactly match. So why do people claim better sound from one streaming source over the other. Iʻm assuming they are both full resolution sources, not mp3.
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@gkelly The reason I brought up this question is that I saw someone else making the claim that Tidal was better than Qobuz. So I was just curious.
I donʻt do any streaming myself. I just play back digital files from a hard drive. I have a miniPC running Ubuntu Linux and JRiver, which feeds into a Peachtree DAC. I have far too much in my collection to ever consider streaming. I just donʻt need it. |
I would love to know how audio streaming is done by different services. What is being done to the files by Qobuz and Tidal. I don’t know. Does a streamer process Qobuz and Tidal streams differently? How are the files stored…compression methods, delivery, decoding by streamers. It clearly can’t be the same as Tidal sounds different from Qobuz. What sounds better is debatable. I know some hate Tidal MQA but my DAC sounds amazing playing MQA from Tidal. I believe it’s more dependent on how the streamer and DAC process this data. But there’s not enough information to draw any conclusions. |
I am also a retired IT guy with 35 years of experience. Without getting deep into the never ending arguement as to the "bits is bits", the big differences in the high to low end streamers are usually include:
And as @gkelly mentioned... typical computers are among the among the worst at just about all the above issues.
As for Qobuz sounding better than Tidal, I agree. Not bringing hi-rez files into the discussion, I think a lot of it has to do with possibly different masters (or remasters) supplied from the original source(s), as well as differences in encoding software used to create the streaming file. While I've never seen any info from either Qobuz or Tidal on what the format(s) they get or use for the "masters", I don't think those masters are what is actually streamed. Most likely they are ripped or converted (or down sampled from hi-rez, DSD, etc.) into a FLAC, AIFF, etc. file. So different software, configurations, equalization settings, etc. would create differences... ... Just my 10 cents (adjusted for tariffs and inflation... lol) Jeff
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