Diving into Power... Cable recs for my system and ears....?


Hello All,

 

I have been enjoying a full system upgrade over the past year... the interconnects and digital cables were an eye opener! Now I am bringing my attention to power...

I am currently running my components off a power strip that is 10' long... supposedly designed for audio. All my major components are plugged into this. This power strip is plugged into a wall outlet, which is shared with some lights etc. Also plugged into this power strip is my wifi router. 

 

I have a few questions:

-What is the most important in regards to impact to overall sound if I were to upgrade the power cords? My guess its: 1: Amp.... 2: DAC... 3: Streamer... is that right? Or is it the opposite? 

-Should I have an electrician setup a dedicated outlet to my electrical box, and run my main components off that? Is this worth it? or is there another setup between my electrical box and my components? Or if there is no detectible buzz, should I simply not bother?

-If I should begin looking into power cords as the first upgrade here, what cord would you recommend if I yearn for the following: Extreme startling presence and separation... magic midrange, highs blissful, voice acoustic jazz violin, piano... essentially startling presence as if the instrument is right there... 

I have been enjoying Anticables, and they have a well rated cable in the $300 range which supposedly is as good or better than $1000 cables... but I am open to recommendations...! 

 

Thank you all!

Richard

 

 

 

 

Currently my system (also outlined in my virtual system profile) is as follows:

    • SPEAKERS: Pure Audio Project Duet 15 Horn (Mundorf Silver Gold Oil Cap upgrade and customized crossover w/high pass filter and sweeter meds), Anticable 4.2 Flex Internal wire)
    • STREAMER: Nagra Streamer (Cardas Clear Coaxial)
    • DAC: HoloAudio Spring 2 Level 3 Kitsune edition (Silversmith Fidelium RCA Interconnects)
    • AMP: PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated (RAY TUBES EL34 Reserve power tubes, RADIOTECHNIQUE NOS 12AU7 Gain tubes w/Mullard NOS and Brimar NOS tubes (Anticables 4.2 Flex to speaker)
    • PHONO: Music Hall MMF-9 and McIntosh MP 100 Preamp (Audio-Technica AT160ML MM Cartridge, Anticable 7.3 and Silversmith fidelium Interconnects)
whyrichard

@westcoastaudiophile details…you chose to not see the details I provided. but I’m not a lazy dude…I’ll repeat it for you…
in one of my responses I stated the following 

I owned X250.5, XA30.8 and X260.8 mono amps. Each of these amplifiers responded to power cord upgrades. Some power cables resulted in better sound quality, some had adverse effects. All depends on system synergy.
 

In another I responded 

 

audphile1

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@devinplombier couple of weeks ago I put a stock power cord on my boulder 866 in place of Nordost Frey 2. It sounded great because the 866 is an amazing piece of equipment. The sound was engaging, smooth and really if better power cords didn’t exist I’d be happy as a clam. But…gone were the airiness, the speed and springiness in the bass, the clarity in the mids and all the minute details in the soundstage that were easily heard with Frey 2. 
On the other hand, living with my new DAC for few months I realized the Frey 2 power cable on it was too much of a good thing. While it worked great with my previous DAC, Bricasti M3, there was no synergy with the new Meitner MA3i. I sold the first Frey 2 and just the other day I sold the one I was using on the Boulder. Replaced with…surprisingly…a much cheaper Kimber PK10 Ascent. It just sounds better to me with the Meitner/Boulder combo. 
I’ve tried enough power cables on many components over the years and they make a difference. Yes some are tone controls but as you stated above the better the components the less coloration is desired. These Kimber cables are (I normally refrain from using this term) as neutral as I ever heard a cable to sound in my system. I think of it as the perfect stock power cord. It just gives you more of everything without crossing any lines. 
 

I’ll do you one more and list the power cables I have tried over the years…

I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else  if my thoughts are not appreciated you’re free to ignore what I say on these forums. However outside of your normal ball busting routines that provide questionable entertainment you are worthless.

here it goes…

Power cords I’ve tried over the years:

 

Audioquest Thunder

Audioquest Tornado

Audioquest Hurricane 

Audience AU24

Audience AU24se-i HP

Audience AU24se-i MP

Audience Forte F3

Audience StudioOne

Acoustic Zen El Niño 

Acoustic Zen Tsunami

Acoustic Zen Krakatoa

Acoustics Zen Gargantua II

Cardas Clear Beyond

DCCA The Source

Furutech FP-S32n

Furutech FP-S55n

Furutech DPS-4.1

Kimber PK14 Base

Kimber PK14 Ascent

Kimber PK10 Ascent

Nordost Red Dawn

Nordost Brahma

Nordost Heimdall 2

Nordost Frey 2

Purist Audio Design Museaus

Purist Audio Design Neptune Diamond Revision

Puritan Classic

Puritan Ultimate 

Shunyata Cobra

Shunyata Venom

Shunyata Taipan Helix Alpha

Shunyata Python Helix Alpha

Shunyata Alpha V2

TWL American Digital

TWL Seven Plus

VH Audio Flavor 4

WireWorld Platinum Electra 7

 

Wow what an engaging conversation…. I love it!

 

I have had a chance to spend some time with an anticable to my dac, and then switched to my amp… and i sense more with my amp (I’ll test when i have some time)… and I just ordered an anticable for my Nagra Streamer… i like the anticables and they are priced right to begin experimenting with power for me… 

Had an interesting conversation with the engineer, inspired, by one of my cables… 

he suggested, after a beautiful lesson on how noise and jitter from the ground loop muddle the time domain… much more in my notes… and the suggestion was to use a ground lift plug on all of my components… and i do believe it made a huge difference. 

 

AND… i did a rewire and I was able to get a dedicated circuit that now runs like the following: box —> dedicated plug —> 12’ “audiophile” power strip with fuse —> 5 ground lift plugs —> amp / dac / nagra streamer / turn table / phone preamp.

My WiFi router is now on a completely diffferent circuit. 

AND>… i am loving what i am hearing!

 

much love to the sublime alchemy!

 

r.