Diving into Power... Cable recs for my system and ears....?


Hello All,

 

I have been enjoying a full system upgrade over the past year... the interconnects and digital cables were an eye opener! Now I am bringing my attention to power...

I am currently running my components off a power strip that is 10' long... supposedly designed for audio. All my major components are plugged into this. This power strip is plugged into a wall outlet, which is shared with some lights etc. Also plugged into this power strip is my wifi router. 

 

I have a few questions:

-What is the most important in regards to impact to overall sound if I were to upgrade the power cords? My guess its: 1: Amp.... 2: DAC... 3: Streamer... is that right? Or is it the opposite? 

-Should I have an electrician setup a dedicated outlet to my electrical box, and run my main components off that? Is this worth it? or is there another setup between my electrical box and my components? Or if there is no detectible buzz, should I simply not bother?

-If I should begin looking into power cords as the first upgrade here, what cord would you recommend if I yearn for the following: Extreme startling presence and separation... magic midrange, highs blissful, voice acoustic jazz violin, piano... essentially startling presence as if the instrument is right there... 

I have been enjoying Anticables, and they have a well rated cable in the $300 range which supposedly is as good or better than $1000 cables... but I am open to recommendations...! 

 

Thank you all!

Richard

 

 

 

 

Currently my system (also outlined in my virtual system profile) is as follows:

    • SPEAKERS: Pure Audio Project Duet 15 Horn (Mundorf Silver Gold Oil Cap upgrade and customized crossover w/high pass filter and sweeter meds), Anticable 4.2 Flex Internal wire)
    • STREAMER: Nagra Streamer (Cardas Clear Coaxial)
    • DAC: HoloAudio Spring 2 Level 3 Kitsune edition (Silversmith Fidelium RCA Interconnects)
    • AMP: PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated (RAY TUBES EL34 Reserve power tubes, RADIOTECHNIQUE NOS 12AU7 Gain tubes w/Mullard NOS and Brimar NOS tubes (Anticables 4.2 Flex to speaker)
    • PHONO: Music Hall MMF-9 and McIntosh MP 100 Preamp (Audio-Technica AT160ML MM Cartridge, Anticable 7.3 and Silversmith fidelium Interconnects)
whyrichard

as a Mastering engineer, I've tested many power cords in my Mastering studio, which is likely better resolution than what 99% here have … So I can tell you that yes power cords have a sound. Even Chinese chords, have a slight difference in sound one from the next
 

It's a question of if it's helpful to your system or not
 

without understanding what you're trying to accomplish, my general recommendations are the following

 

1. dedicated line back to the breaker box and install a new circuit breaker, install a outlet upgrade of some kind… I use Shunyata research

2. as far as the power cords themselves, it's not enough to just throw money at it because you think you might be able to upgrade ... you have to have something in mind that you're trying to fix… You have to know where you are and where you're trying to go

 

Shunyata research is the best value and the best sound quality both so that's a real winner… In order to learn what's going on you could start with two gamma and two Theta NR for $3000. If you have more to spend grab two alpha X   If money is not an object, then their latest cable which is omega something or other at $12,000 is the best power cord that anyone has ever made and can be used anywhere
 

there's plenty of research on this, even if you're nearly deaf, which apparently many people here are 

 

if you don't hear the sound of power cords, or speaker, cables, or resistors, or diode, or capacitors… That doesn't mean you're a bad person, and it doesn't mean that you can enjoy music… It means that either your system is not very advanced, or you're listening skill is not very advanced… This is just a fact of life, and getting defensive about it isn't helping anyone, so please… Just calm down and let the rest of us have a conversation about something we understand well

I’m an electrical engineer and I can confirm there is no reason to do anything to your electrical connection that will improve sound.  There are some advantages to connecting all your equipment to a dedicated electrical circuit. This would make it so nothing else could cause any drop in power delivery.  

Thanks for posting in this thread @brianlucey 

If you were forced to pick a couple of albums from your catalogue you were most proud of from an audiophile "best sound quality" standpoint, which would you recommend? 

http://magicgardenmastering.com/

if you don’t hear the sound of power cords, or speaker, cables, or resistors, or diode, or capacitors… That doesn’t mean you’re a bad person, and it doesn’t mean that you can (sic) enjoy music… It means that either your system is not very advanced, or you’re (sic) listening skill is not very advanced… This is just a fact of life, and getting defensive about it isn’t helping anyone, so please… Just calm down and let the rest of us have a conversation about something we understand well

@brianlucey 

Most folks on this forum can’t tell schematics from the Bayeux tapestry, and here you are goading them with noisy diodes... You’re creating a monster 😂😂🤣

Love the Black Keys albums, thank you for those!

@ktarver I would encourage you to investigate the Shunyata research website, the founder has a PhD and used to work for the government, everything he does is based in science

 

here's the short version which I'm sure you will understand… AC Power is a 60 cycles sine wave and that wave is subject to noise that is beyond human hearing, that noise alters the shape of the waveform and the altered shape of that waveform affects the way that power supplies receive the AC power, and this is what makes the sound change…

 

It is through eliminating inaudible noise that we get closer to a pure sign wave at 60 cycles or 50 cycles or whatever it may be…

 

And this definitely changes the sound, in fact, I would bet you $10,000 that if you were in my studio and I changed out one power cord in my studio even you would hear it…

 

Engineering degrees skills aside, you could be nearly deaf, and as biased as you are ... and you would hear it, it's not subtle