@robshaw Your opening comment "Room is 14X14' No treatments, but, room currently sounds great" has me perplexed. Everything I've read on listening rooms says the worst is a square box. I can only guess how much better your system would sound with acoustic treatment, regardless of the speakers you go with? Just a thought. Cheers,
which excels at Rock and Roll
Room is 14X14' No treatments, but, room currently sounds great. Amp PASS X250.8, Fritz Carbon 7se bookshelves, LA-4 preamp, SVS SB3000 sub, Bricasti M5 streamer, Meitner DAC, only Rock and Roll, 85 or so DB Considering used, Platimon VC 1, Arendal 15-28, Marten Oscar, Acora MRB-1, and Small tower, Devore Fidelity Gibbon super 9. There are others, but, I believe these would be the top contenders, USED? Any and all responses welcomed. Love my FRITZ and won't sell. Just considering the above. Thanks, Robert TN
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For rock, pop, percussive, symphonic, and electronic music you need good speakers with good dynamics. The rest will sound as it should as well. So speakers like that can handle all music well and are not genre specific. Planars and Electrostats tend to have limited dynamics so not as good for the types mentioned above and therefore are more genre specific. But it’s hard to make the case a speaker is top notch when it can’t handle all kinds of music well. IMHO based on years of experience, that is. Size matters as well depending on room size and ability to go to lifelike SPL levels, though not all may necessarily need that. |
Absolutely FALSE....but let us get to the bottom of it a bit. Here are 2 speakers that i personally own, which are made by the same manufacturer even.... Let us consider this track by thin lizzy (one of my test tracks) with Brian Downey on drums doing his thing back during his younger days. Play this track at 100db+ and you couldn’t for the life of me (or for another 50 lifetimes) tell me these 2 speakers are genre agnostic and will fulfill this track the same way. 99% of listeners who have half a wit about rock would pick one of these (and not the other) as their preferred sound, i would bet.. https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=W9IXcPeMcpI&si=HeZNvb1_wO5ifsiU
Or try this...i am sure it is a fan favorite around here for small rooms...Play that track at a 100db+ on this li’l.....and tell me with a straight face that speakers are genre agnostic.
Even a speaker savant like Andrew Jones is on record saying that he’d get very shaky if someone asked him to design compression drivers and a big ol’ horn speaker. I haven’t seen any speakers on your catalog, but, as an amp designer,, you seem to be repeating this genre agnostic fallacy on different threads. I understand that you are required to cast the widest net possible (to capture as big a market as possible for your product) as a manufacturer, state that your gear would work just great for every genre...I would really hope this forum in not filled with noobs and folks here have a reference point for different types of gear, understand that there is no genre agnostic audio equipment. You could keep showing a sinad chart, FR chart and keep repeating the fallacy perhaps or the guys at that one "measurements only/no ears" forum might..... But...i really am not sure how you all could repeat this fallacy with a straight face.
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Lower cost speakers will have more limitations and hence be less genre agnostic as well. Think ls50 with limited bass extension and output or Magnepan lrs with limited bass extension, dynamics and output. Both have real limits. Some music will flourish but not all. But bigger better and more expensive speakers with minor limitations are essentially genre agnostic. I think that is what @atmasphere means. Not that you can cut a lot of corners and still get it all with all music. |
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