New Turntable


Hi All,

I’m considering a new turntable for a system based around Classe Delta separates and Focal Utopia speakers. I’ve narrowed my choices down to a few models:

  • Luxman P151 MK II Centennial Edition
  • Luxman P191A
  • Clearaudio Ovation or Innovation
  • Rega P10

And looking for any feedback folks have on sound, value, ease of use, etc. I need to decide if I want to try to snag an individual centennial edition from Luxman while I can or get the entire set. I don’t have a ton of turntable experience, so as fuss-free of an experience as possible is desired. When I spoke to dealers they considered these options pretty low-maintenance and I should not be concerned there, though they did mention that Rega is about as set it and forget it as can be. I will need a dust cover and as far as I can tell all of these have that option available.

One thing that concerns me about Clearaudio is the age of the models and the almost 50% increase in price of the product lifetime of the Ovation. If it was still around 8K it would be an obvious front-runner for me. 

Please don’t respond with other brands. There is an overwhelming amount of choice out there and I’ve worked pretty hard to get to a short list already. An example I had, but removed was Goldnote Mediterraneo as it would be not regularly demoed and is available special order only.

 

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As an AI mimic done from my own Index Finger, whilst on a Commuter Train, and after having had a Coffee. The OP seemingly reads as the following:

I have limited knowledge about Analogue as a Source.

Using my limited knowledge, I consulted with those who have a keen interest in a closed won arrangement when it comes to Audio Equipment. 

The Extended knowledge led  to my own creation of  a list of Four TT’s

One TT on the shortlist would be my most ideal if not so costly. 

I have reached out further to others through this forum. 

Forum comment MUST be very very limited to short list TT only. Other experiences are not welcome in this Thread. 

A Dust Cover is extremely important, the idea of a dust cover superseded the idea of a TT. 

 

It is not too easy to help with this inquiry, but worth a go.

Is the dust cover wanted to be a Bespoke Produced Design?

Is it to be Hinged?,

IS it to be Clear as a Finish?,

Is it to be Tinted as a Finish?

Not mentioning other Brands as requested, but other Brands might have a dust cover as an accessories, or a Third Party dust cover might be readily available for an alternate Brand. 

I find Threads that inquire about possible options for a Tonearm > Cartridge > Phonostage, have proved great value to individuals wanting to experience a Analogue Source, that is intended to be used to replay Vinyl LP’s. 

I have not met anybody to date who is solely wanting a TT, to be a Prop for a Dust Cover. 

 

I had an Ovation for about 12 years, then an Innovation Wood for two years, and I just got a Master Innovation this summer. Clearaudio turntables are great. Fit and finish, and overall quality are second to none, and if buying in the U.S. Musical Surroundings support is the best.

The Clearaudio turntables are all relatively straightforward to setup, and need very little maintenance. 

All three sound great, with each a significant improvement as you move up, especially in bass response. Since these are high mass, unsprung turntables you really want to have good isolation. I use a HRS isolation base for mine, and that in turn sits on a HRS EXR rack. 

I had a dustcover for my Ovation, to use only when not playing it. Building a dustcover for the  Innovation and Master Innovation is impractical, especially when using multiple tonearms. When I’m not playing records I use a platter mat to keep dust off the platter. 

If you want a dustcover I recommend getting one from Norm Cones at https://stereosquares.com. He’s great to work with on design and custom options. He also sells here on the Audiogon marketplace.

Clearaudio makes very nice equipment all the way around. Although I do not own one of their tables, I have their Double Matrix Pro Sonic cleaning machine and it is very well built and a pleasure to use. Up until this past March I did won a Rega P10 turntable. With it's light weight and interesting design, it was different than any of my other, or previous tables, The tonearm is fantastic. The P10 is probably the easiest turntable you could ever setup. Mine was new and came with an Apheta 3 cartridge which I did not use as I mounted my Transfiguration Proteus D. Very nice sound overall. Alas, it was one of three tables and I preferred my upper end Linn LP12 and my wife would not be happy if I sold the Nottingham she likes, so the P10 was used as trade fodder at TMR.

I owned a brand new Rega P10 but I have no hands on experience with the others. It is a nice piece of engineering, particularly the tonearm, and a very reliable TT. Unfortunately I sold it within 30 days as I found it somewhat bright. Very dynamic and fast but lacking warmth and bass. I ended up with a LP12 which has a better soundstage, better separation and more bass. The P10 would be a great choice for someone looking for a plug and play TT and I would recommend to use their cartridge in that case given limited tonearm adjustment functionality.

I agree with @ericba - of those, the P10 is by far the most fuss-free. You unpack it and ten minutes later you are up and running, and it's set up RIGHT right away, especially if you get it with a Rega cartridge. (The Apheta 3 is a good recommendation, and the cart comes with a bundle discount if purchased together with the P10).