Cartridge upgrade


Resurrecting my TNT ET 2 after a few years and thinking of a cartridge update or stay with my old Monster Genesis Alpha 1000 which still sounds great to my ears but have not heard a newer system to judge from. 

If I upgrade it will most likely one of the ZYX line, not the $10,000 one.  I would look for something preferably a demo at 50-60% off expecting to keep it below $2000.

Another possible step is to have the Alpha rebuilt by soundsmith.  I also have the option of a Shinnon red or a Dennon 103d.

Any one with direct experience?

apb3rd

You have an extremely rare diamond-dust sputtered boron tube cantilever, and hopefully the suspension will learn to dance again after several hrs play

I renew the rubber capstan rollers on my tape recorders with something like this I bought many years ago, just a speck if you must.

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I came across this info about your cartridge

"neobop

Well-Known Member

Choice of cantilever material depends on the designer’s priorities and voicing. Boron is the material of choice for many designers because it’s very rigid, transmits energy the fastest and is light weight. Beryllium is even lighter (and more brittle), also more flexible than boron so it’s more exact than aluminum yet has some of the warmth. Ruby/sapphire is heavier and rigid, but some like those from Soundsmith are extremely thin, practically transparent so they’re light and don’t sound slow - very detailed.

Monster MCs were designed by Hisayoshi Nakatsuka, the same guy who designed the Accuphase AC-1, 2, and 3. That was in the late ’70s, early ’80s. Since the Monster days in the late ’80s he designs the ZYX carts. This is the same basic design as the Monster carts and the specs on some are identical. The coil configuration came from the ’80s, but I’m not sure about more recent ZYX designs like the Universe.

Monsters - Of the low output models first there was the Genesis 500. Very nice cart with a micro ridge. It was the predecessor to the Genesis 1000, similar and almost as refined. The 1000 is one of my all time favorite carts. It also has a micro ridge and a diamond dust coated boron tube cantilever. A boron tube cantilever is unobtainium today and extremely desirable.
The Sigma 2000 was identical to the 1000 except it has gold coils. The 2000 is more lush and smoother than the 1000, but not as fast.

With Monster the model number was the price. The 1000 was $800 when it first came out, but went up to $1K the same year ("88). The 2000 came out in ’89. Some months after the 1000 came out there was a redesign - an improvement. This was done without announcement. It wasn’t a MKII. Response was extended past 100K. It was previously 60 or 80K. I traded mine in, but I heard no difference. I’m not sure what happened in the ’90s. I think there was a MKII 1000 and maybe a couple of lesser models."

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In order to get back to Beryllium cantilevers, and light tracking 1.25g, I have taken a chance and gotten lucky on used vintage AT160ML’s, rediscovering how awesome MM can sound. They have gold coated Beryllium.

Steve at VAS just checked one for me and remarked how the AT suspensions can last forever it seems.

I just posted this idea in another discussion: 

 

IF you are not comfortable risking buying a used stylus, but like AT’s dual magnet sound and light 1.25 tracking, you can buy a used MM cartridge and put a new stylus in it.

I like Boron if buying new, and I see they still sell 3 VMN Boron Stylii that fit these older AT150, AT155, AT160; AT440 bodies 

AT-VMN45xML (microlinear/nude/boron cantilever)
AT-VMN50xSH (Shibata/nude/boron cantilever)
AT-VMN60xSL (special line contact/nude/boron cantilever)

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/support/which-stylus-can-i-use-to-replace-my-discontinued-model?srsltid=AfmBOoqmY8LH9JfjLmVnMHaK7edGe8NmiyTNluGGDkQDaGLFGN74nzzh

For Imaging, AT160ML with Beryllium Stylus achieved 0.5db channel balance; 31 db channel separation at 1kh.

Put a new boron cantilever with one of those 3 choices, we have to guess: perhaps it changes to what they are getting in their MM cartridges with boron, i.e. 1.0db channel balance; 26db channel separation, the advantage is those cartridges track at 2.0g, the vintage designs track at nominal 1.25g

The AT MC cartridges Imaging, even my moderately priced AT33PTG/II  do a bit better at 0.5/30db at 2.0g which makes you admire that the AT160ml MM specs are 0.5db/31db at 1.25g

 

Not my words but from a very very well respected individual in the world of Cartridge Overhaul. I would digest every word, if ZYX was on a shortlist. 

" The most honest and most problematic of modern cartridges.
I have always liked and continue to like the sound of ZYX, but since an indefinite time there has been a change in the damper material, which led to a terrible effect. The damper no longer holds its shape under the powerful pressure of the magnetic field, which turns the coils inside out.
Damper deformation leads to a terrible channel imbalance, which reaches 3 - 6 dB.
I repeat that the cartridge has a very good sound while it is young.
I would require that the product's production date and expiration date be marked on the packaging, just like in the grocery department of a store.

Does the ZYX company know about this? I think they know, at least the dealers who get rid of expired products at reduced prices are well aware of this."

Thanks, both posts are very interesting and provide food for serious thought.  I probably need to visit some high end emporium and get acquainted with what modern high end has to offer.  I am not sure just how much my components can support and not limit gains from a better cartridge.  I am listening to biamped Daili Diva Grands fronted by a Denon AVR x4700 and a NAD 955 power amp, a BAT VK P5 and a VPI TNT with an ET 2,0 with a high pressure small diameter arm at 2.7psi which i know is really low.  I have a compressor that will allow me to run whatever pressure I want waiting to be installed.