New Turntable Advice


Good Morning 

I's time for a change ! My current system is A VPI Prime with ADS speed control, on my second replacement cueing device, dual pivot added. With Ortofon Credenza Bronze MC cartridge, and Parasound JC3+ preamp.

What started search was just another let down with the VPI, cueing terrible, and the ADS couldn't bring the platter up to 45 RPM!!!

OK I'm heading in the direction of ~ $5000 table without arm or cartridge , Supa Trac Blackbird, and going to audition DS Audio W3. I was looking at a refurbished Nakamichi Dragon CT with album centering feature, but I think there maybe better technology from this vintage design.

So can you help with your advice on my next table, thanks Very Much

Bruno

 

badbruno

Im worried about WoW and Flutter so there in lies my interest in Center Search function of the Nakamichi CT. In fact with a test record playing on the VPI with 3150 hz track and using my AC FFT measurements I clearly see the VPI/album runout. Are you using the DS Audio eccentric device?

 

Isn’t album runout a big deal?

it’s good to have a solid spare TT, nice if it has different technology.

someone ought to get this Mitsubishi LT-22, Quartz Lock DD Linear Tracking, auto play/return.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226961366689?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=ffcf7888-8c02-11f0-adb5-343763653635

a few others are listed

https://www.hifishark.com/search?q=mitsubishi+lt-22

I set one up for a friend, he has two TT81’s, and a PL-3 three arm JVC Plinth, some fancy arms nearing final assembly. We are not certain it will sound any better, and the LT-22 is full of convenience. I had it here for a while, compared it to my then two arm TT81. is quite solid, excellent linear tracking.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226961366689?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=552c82b4-8c00-11f0-8898-393036313037

Make sure the two LEDs that guide the arm’s movement are working (if it starts and plays, they must be working). That’s the only tricky thing about them.

An LT-20, Wood Look (vinyl wrap), no bids yet

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205703469746?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=81b74118-8c03-11f0-ae19-343763653635

 

Well this is getting to be a very interesting conversation isn’t it?  Idler driver turntables may be way off topic, but what the hell.  I figure all of us are essentially on a parallel course with flat earthers anyway so why not diverge when the opportunity presents itself?  Of course Lewm is right, this is not a good place for a neophyte to be looking.  I was a neophyte myself when the TD124 (and TD224) were phased out and the TD125 era began.  Thorens held demonstration/clinics where there was instrumentation used to measurably prove the superiority of the new TD125.  My ears told me it was quieter, much quieter.  Of course there were a few holdouts, mostly because the TD124 looked so cool, but over the course of time most serious audiophiles switched to the new model.  As a dealer we hated to see a valued customer bringing in his TD124 to trade in a way because we knew that they were not an easy sell in those days on the used market.  By the time I had the money to buy it was a TD125MKII, so I never did buy a TD124.  I still like them, and I consider my VPI HW-III to be the successor.  And it still sounds good.  But it is a little soft spoken.  A good idler is noiser, but it has more slam.  Better than either, in my opinion, because of practicality really is a direct drive.   Any are fun. 

neophyte interesting ...

Elliott I still have my Sony PS-X700 DD.

Center Tracking Isn’t album runout a big deal? WoW and Flutter, not important if you're listening to Rock and Roll or metal music I suspect. Jazz and Classical Vocals its important.