Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@mahgister @stuartk 

I don't think I'll ever buy a CD again. I have over 1,000 CDs which I play using my streamer's D/A converter. Although, many CDs I own are on Qobuz as much richer files. A CD samples 44.1 thousand times a second with a 16-bit word length. Often the same album is offered on Qobuz with up to 192K sampling and a 24-bit word length. All the math doesn't really matter. It sounds much better. 

I had the same resistance as @stuartk. I dismissed streaming, thinking I had enough music with 1,000 vinyl records and over 1,000 CDs. Being on this forum and the jazz forum has really got me using my streamer a lot. It's part of my ethos to try to keep up with new things. I don't want to be an old man who is totally out of it. I want to keep surprising my granddaughters. 

Also, when @stuartk introduced me to Wayne Shorter, I probably would have bought an album or two until I heard how rich his albums sounded on Qobuz. I don't need to go out and buy them on vinyl. I feel like I own the albums of his that I like. Just plug in Wayne Shorter's name and there is nearly all the albums he ever recorded. 

@mahgister 

But it is useful to stream a new composer or album before deciding to purchase it ...

Sure. I do this for free on Spotify!  But as I see it, it makes no sense, given all the $ I’ve spent on CDs, to start over with streaming. And, I know myself -- for every 50 recordings I hear of Spotify, I may find two I actually want to buy. My taste is the most limiting factor. I can only spend so much time sitting and listening hoping to find something I may enough to purchase, no matter how the music is being delivered. And then there’s the added complication and expense. No; I'll stick with what I’ve got. 

@audio-b-dog 

It's part of my ethos to try to keep up with new things. I don't want to be an old man who is totally out of it. I want to keep surprising my granddaughters. 

Well, OK. It's not part of mine. I stopped worrying about keeping up with trends a long time ago. 

 

@stuartk 

Yes, well, we're all different people, and that's a good thing. I will take issue, however, with "keeping up with trends." I wouldn't say that you introducing me to Wayne Shorter was keeping up with a trend. But I do like to see what's going on around me. When I go to get my hair cut and I see all these women wearing clothes to reveal their tattoos, I think back to when I first came to this salon for a haircut and how different people looked then. I think it's partly because I'm a writer that I'm always trying to notice and hear new things. Especially because I'm now writing about the near future. Also, I play a lot of LPs, and I like to hear how well each recording was digitalized, and you can't fully hear that on Spotify. If an album I like is really badly digitalized, I'll buy the record. Because of streaming, I no longer need to buy CDs..

I dont give a damn about trends we must be conscious of ...devil

I am interested only by individual musicians not so much by trends : be it  jazz, classical, or Persian and Indian etc...

 Some trends even  repulse me even if the musician is a good one... Sorry (  Commercial or industrialized  Pop  and rock etc ) 

I look for individual musicians genius, nevermind the culture or musical language...

for example: i dont like the Opera genre , but there is many operas i love a lot to death...

Same is true for jazz, or even classical...

Who can rival Bruckner or Gesualdo genius ? Very few  and they  are in the great names ...

I dont like symphonic music but i love Beethoven and Bruckner till madness or Schumann fourth or Mahler etc or Robert Simpsons ( A genius not even well known ) etc ...

I dont like quatuors... But Beethoven quatuors are pure transcendental music ...

I finally understand i like musicians more than music itself...Some are Godly...

 

 How many musicians can direct Schutz music ?  Not much...

Try Mauersberger  Schutz  "Geistliche Chormusic " , i listened to it near 1000 times... How did i know the count ?

Easy: i wrote for 4 years a project and i listened to Schutz each night when writing  for 4 years with Bach various Choral pieces and Klavier ...

I dont like Schutz as much alone as the musician Mauersberger able to recreate the musical time dimension rythms and pulse behind the written score. The creative rythms in Schutz is here in this work  a perfect mix of German depth and weight with the Italian wings and "lightness of being ". There is no one who can catch this  paradoxal mix as Mauersberger directing the Chor...Incredible  and strong as the stronger addictive  drug after one listening, because like in the 7th symphony of Beethoven we feel the creative pulse of the Cosmos and human heart as One. 

Music is ecstasy not just fun...Spiritual transformation not just leisure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZQ0EPuNqk