You are there vs. They are there


So what is the difference?  Do I have it right?

You are there: the vocal and soundstage starts at the plane of the speakers

                         and recess backward behind the speakers plane.

They are there: The soundstage is forward into the room with the vocal

                          reproduction in your room.

 

Which would you prefer?

andy2

The shouting at you forward projection of vocals is not something I would like or would be generally accepted as a good thing under almost any circumstances. 

Can you have the best of both worlds - forward but not shouting at you.  I personally prefer "They are there".  It creates a palpable presence that makes music more interesting.

 

Did you mean to say “they are here”?

I think of most systems built around more directional speakers as “you are there”.   The goal is to take the room out of the equation and experience the recording exactly as produced. 
 

Whereas I think of more omnidirectional speakers as “they are here”.  In other words now your room is the live performance venue and the players sound more like they are there in the room with you.  
 

I have one of each and enjoy each on its own terms in different ways because I just love this stuff in general and want to experience it all. ❤️❤️❤️

@mapman 

I think it’s the opposite.  Directional speakers do not bounce around the room and interact with the room as much so things can be "pin pointed" within the room more accurately.

 

One can have both a more forward sound stage and/or projection of performers into one's listening space yet also maintain depth so there is a sense of the recording venue. I have horns  SET amps and DHT preamps so this inherently more forward ss or sense of performers in room, but at the same time using strategically placed room treatments I've been able to create a center image that also extends behind plane of speakers. I also physically time aligned my mid and tweeter drivers which has greatly enhanced depth of sound stage. I've also experienced systems with less forward sound stage that have been very engaging, don't believe there's any right or wrong, all about preference.