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Thank you for mercifully deleting some of the more recalcitrant melts.  Mostly, we come in peace, in search of enlightenment, exposure to a bit of wit, not an inquisition.  Cheers

celtic66

@hilde45 + 1

Discussing how, for example, tariffs affect the prices of the audio gear that many of us buy is hardly a cooking show breaking out in a political perspective of the crusades. Just about every facet of life is affected by some kind of politics, like it or not. Sometimes it is worth discussing. 

@celtic66 

Mostly, we come in peace, in search of enlightenment, exposure to a bit of wit, not an inquisition.  

Beautifully expressed.

@hilde45 

Civil discussion about political issues and differences is, well, the basic idea of a democracy.

Respectfully submitted, I unfortunately don’t ever remember reading a civil discussion involving politics on Audiogon in the 20+ years I have been a member.  Do you?  

 

It’s one thing to discuss government but it’s another to discuss politics. Of course the two subjects intersect but they’re still two different things. However, there are some people who are simply obsessed with politics and see everything through a political lens. With them, it’s impossible to discuss tariffs - or virtually anything else - without veering into politics. They really can’t help themselves. 

Politics is about putting ideas into action, how can that not affect virtually every activity humans undertake. If those political actions  directly or indirectly affect the audio endeavor they rightly belong here. Seems there's a growing sentiment in favor of censorship in this country/world, disagreements, sometimes vehement disagreement is a sign of a healthy democracy. Civility is the key, the mindless personal attacks should be censored, at least in this forum, far too much of that today.

Politics is about putting ideas into action, how can that not affect virtually every activity humans undertake.

That's an interesting definition. I'm not sure it's commonly accepted.

If those political actions  directly or indirectly affect the audio endeavor they rightly belong here.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. Mine is that politics don't belong here. It never ends well. There are plenty of other places to debate politics.

As I mentioned, some people see everything through the lens of politics. They can't see it any other way.