Seeking Advice to Improve My Audio System ($1000 Budget)


Hello everyone. I have started collecting physical media (mainly Classical Music, but also some Metal, and older singer/songwriter material) for a few years now, and have built up a collection that is mainly vinyl, but also some CDs. I have slowly built up a stereo system to support it. I am not very knowledgeable with audio equipment and feel like I am drowning in information, and so I have pieced together what there seems to be a consensus around with my budget. So far I have:

Audio Engine A5+ 150 W Speakers

REGA Planar Plus 1 Turntable with built in stage

SMSL PL200 CD Player 

I use the RCA port for my turntable, and the aux port for my CD player.

Now I am wondering where I should go with my setup. I want my next investment to be around the $1000 range, but am not sure where to go with it. Should I get a woofer for the speakers and an external preamp for my turntable? Or at this price, am I better off looking for better speakers...or is there another weak point in my system? My main concerns are that the midrange and upper frequencies do sound muddy compared to other systems I have heard (but they aren't terrible) and while the bass isn't bad, it certainly could be enhanced.

As a final question, I am confused when it comes to the pre-amp. I don't quite understand how they work, and I am a bit confused and worried that I would run into an issue with my existing built-in preamp overriding an external one? Any advice?

carlyleciv

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We had a recent "$2000 Budget System Design Challenge", and the results may be seen at: https://sfaf.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=794405&item_id=115420&

The rules were pretty loose, but they generally all include at least 1 source component, so the amp & speaker combos are at least in the kilobuck neighborhood.

You might also consider something like the Parasound NewClassic 200 Integrated Amplifier; they've got a couple used ones at $599 at The Music Room (NOT to be confused with the  Parasound NewClassic 200 Preamplifier).  They just slid a 110 watt/channel class D amp into the 200 Pre case, so you get a full-featured preamp (MM/MC phono, DAC, subwoofer support, HT bypass, remote control, preamp out) plus power.  That gives you plenty of flexibility, and you can bypass any function later with a better external unit if you choose.  The current Parasound model is called the NC200INT, new at $899.  The company was sold a couple years back, so I think this is mostly just a re-badging.  Of course, you'd need to buy a pair of speakers, too!

BTW, speakers are the most important issue.  While I love the LS50s, I personally would never use them without subwoofing.  Since I'm reluctant to get a subwoofer, I've always ended up with floor standers.  Are your speakers currently on shelves, desktop, or stands?  Are you willing to dedicate some floor space to them (whether towers or smaller speakers on stands)?

it’s tricky because if you go to passive speakers, you would need an amp. 

You can get a decent vintage receiver for under a $100, on ebay, craigslist or shopgoodwill. I would go with Denon or Yamaha. You can’t really go wrong with it. But you can add Onkyo, Adcom and NAD to the list too. 

For speakers, again no need to spend a $1000. There are a lot of vintage speakers that sound great. Cambridge Soundworks, Celestion, Boston Acoustics, Monitor Audio, Paradigm, etc. The key is to find quality and avoid junk. 

People here spend many 1000s a year on cable upgrade alone. They can’t really make meaningful suggestions for a system that has no quality component (maybe your CD player is OK) especially the Rega 1 is despicable. I am saying this as a Rega fan, that version should not exists. 

(I am terrified by the Wavetouch Audio WT-95 idea that would "take" your $1000 and would leave with you where you are right now. And coincidentally, the person suggesting it is the person selling it. Ouch. No.)

You can get great sound from vintage, quality components. Just do your research or feel free to pick our brains. Knowledge substitutes a lot of $$$ in audio. 

Re KEF and Hegel - no, not a good idea. Unless your goal is to spend many thousands and be done with it. The LS50 has a very unique sound, needs very tricky placement, and on the bright and overly detailed side. Which is exactly what the Hegel does, too much separation, too little warmth and fluidity. Together: bright, fatiguing, in your face notes, that feels like a cat scratching your side burns. Both the Hegel and the KEF are impressive and good value for the money. But you need to find out if your ear likes that type of very revealing, analytical, monitor sound. 

@gano from the additional reading and research I’ve done (and goodness much of this can be a time sink! You can get lost in the reading.) that seems to be the consensus, bright and fatiguing. I have come to love looking at the design of the Hegel amps, but I think I should leave them for a future upgrade.

 

I now have changed course, and coincidentally have come very close to one of the entries listed by @petaluman, which is to go Wharfedale Lintons+Yamaha A-S801. I have found a really good deal on this locally for under $2500 and with a 30 day trial period to audition them. From what I have *read* and looking at the range, it doesn’t seem like this would necessarily need a subwoofer. I am curious to know what you all think of this, particularly re: the lack of a subwoofer and the amp choice before I pull the trigger

Regarding comments from @gano ​​​​and @yoyoyaya on the Rega 1 cart, that definitely seems to be the next upgrade needed after this purchase. Frankly, I don’t think I want to keep this one and upgrade it, there is an occasional buzz/hum that sometimes bothers me, and I don’t like having an integrated preamp. I’ll be looking for a new turntable and cartridge after this, which I imagine involves being brave and learning about cartridge alignment, replacement, etc. I’ve spent a lot of time listening, reading and speaking with others about this hobby already (and will be putting a good chunk of money into it!), I might as well ’get real’ with it. I like what vinyl gives me too much to have a bad sound.

re:  Wharfedale Lintons+Yamaha A-S801.

I have had both, not at the same time though. I did not end up keeping them so they didn't end on the top of my list.

The Lintons are very popular and well reviewed. The Yamaha less so. For that price range, I don't think there are better values than Creek, Quad Vena, Mission and Arcam. Musical Fidelity is one price category higher but also terrific value. 

A 30 day trial is the way to go. 

Here is a web site for speaker options: https://speakerchoices.com/

I know it may be frustrating for you that you find a combination you like and people tell you to like something else. It's all subjective there are no wrong choices. Your ear is the smartest guy in the room.