2020 update : JC Verdier La Platine


A recent encounter with a JC Verdier dealer as well as a recent Audiogon discussion thread led to the start of this thread. He was in my house updating my La Platine which had been in storage for ten years with thread and oil. While he has high regards for the deck, his newer clients nevertheless prefer a Techdas iii than an 'old' La Platine. Given the proliferation of expensive decks in the past dozen years, La Platine has become very much under-appreciated. 

It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.

It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter  and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency. 

The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?

Cheers!
ledoux1238

It’s very interesting your comment of the La Platine vs TT3, the former being the more ‘neutral’ deck. I just read through a Safir thread on WBF ( 30 pages  in all ), and it was mounted on more than four or five different La Platines. Please give further impressions of the Safir on the La Platine as you live with it more. I would be very interested. 

I think on various aspect of the La Platine, it comes down to preferences. On the WBF, there are as many who defeat the suspension as there are sticking with it. There is a user, @thekong, who uses a pneumatic platform under the La Platine. And he defeated the suspension of the table to prevent interference. I have a solid wooden platform under both the plinth and the motor. And I would eventually like to place Townshend seismic pods, spring loaded, underneath, so defeating the table’s suspension is a first step.

The least elastic the belt / thread the better is the way to go. I too am using synthetic sewing thread interchanging with pure silk sewing threads. I feel they are better than the original linen thread; but with the linen thread incoming, I would appreciate your thoughts on the matterAnd as mentioned , Galibier Design, sells a Kevlar tape / belt that seems to work best with a suspension less La Platine. 
 

 

i agree, alot of Safir plus La Platine action.  i asked one user what cart he recommended with the Safir and he said the Aidas Mammoth.  unfortunately that cart costs more than i paid for the la platine!

 

i have defeated suspension again.  it sounds good.

one thing re: thread/belts.  for me, i almost am too fast with the belts (too fast for 45 rpm, lowest i can achieve is 46).  with tiny synthetic thread i am just making 33.3 but can't get within cooee of 45 rpm.  so i need the thread to solve that issue really (i did previously trial floss and hence my confidence).

it does seem the la platine gets "better" the more squishiness we can pull out of it.  so stiff feet, stiff base for motor, less elastic belt material.  leaving the only squishiness to the magnetic bearing.

speculating but a reason the safir might be a good fit with la platine is because it is very good at extracting bass which hasn't been a reputed strength of la platine.

thread versus rubber belt, the difference to me is the slightest amount more air in the thread presentation.  

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