New cartridge vs. Re-tipped


What I am trying to ask is, what are the down sides, if any, to buying a re-tipped cartridge as opposed to a brand new cartridge. Do you get less hours with a re-tipped, a completely different sound? Is tracking ability compromised?

Thanks

audiorusty

@dwette @stringreen @nwres 

Gentlemen, I appreciate your responses. They have helped a lot.

In this particular case I am looking at a Lyra cartridge that was re-tipped by Soundsmith. I have not talked with the seller yet, but I am assuming that the workmanship is good, but Soundsmith probably did not use Lyra authorized parts, which if correct would likely mean that the sound profile of the cartridge could be somewhat different than a factory built Lyra. Do you concur or do you think I am off base?

Thanks.

You are 100% correct that a retipped Lyra cartridge by SoundSmith most likely will not have the identical sonic sig but that doesn't mean it would be worse. Soundsmith when doing retips has several choices, I know from experience. From 2 I've had done (Kuzma cartridges) I thought they sounded slightly better than original. Again my own experience. 

I have never seen a single post from anyone ever saying they were not extremely pleased with a Soundsmith or VAS retip. Whether the sound was 100% the same I can’t say, but I think it’s important to do what the retipper thinks will work best. I’ve had 2 done and in both cases, they recommended leaving the cantilever and replacing the stylus only. I was very satisfied with the work both times.  That said, if money is a big issue, I would probably move down one level on the cartridge and buy new if I didn’t know the owner. Was the retipped cartridge ever used?  Or straight from the retipper to you?  Unless you know the seller, that could be a risk, IMO.

I had my Lyra Skala rebuilt by Soundsmith, and didn't especially care for its new sonic signature.  IMO, the difference in cantilever material fundamentally changed the sound of the cartridge.  It's not bad per se, but it's no longer a Lyra.  I don't think I'd send another cart to Soundsmith since I think their generic 'one size fits all' approach seems a bit heavy handed.  I'm going to send it to Joseph Long, and see what he can do with it.  He seems to have a wider array of materials (including boron cantilevers), as well as identical profile Ogura diamonds.  His backlog is lengthy however.  Just my 2¢.  

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