@lucky_doggg7 thanks for taking time posting your response. Jeff Joseph thinks that the amp would sound pretty good. He demos the speakers using Dosh tube amp with smiliar power. I also heard the previous version of the speakers with EAR V12 integrated tube amp and that output 50w, sounded planty loud for my listening level. Yes there are many other choices, but I always had desire to own AR gear. Pass was the same way. Hopefully those two amps provide me with different sound for enjoyment
Adding a tube amp is a good idea?
Dear all,
Hope your 2025 is off to a good start! I am thinking about adding a tube amp. Particularly Audio Research ref S80. Nicely used unit can be had for a reasonable price so I am considering it. You can see my virtual system for a full list but my system consists of LTA preamp, Pass Labs X250.8 amp and JA Perspective2 speakers. Totally happy and satisfied with the sound I get from the system, but just want to have another amp for a different flavour. Do you guys think ref 80s sounds different enough, for better or worse? Let me know what you think. Thanks
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@jfuquay Curious. What amp kit do you have and what speakers? |
You kinda have to go out and hear some of the candidate amps. Tube amps vary in sound MUCH more than do solid state amps. I am a tube amp fan, but, I find that a lot of high powered tube amps sound brittle and unpleasant on the top end. This has been the case with some, but not all Audio Research amps, so at the fery least, listen to some tube amps. Also, consider not going the high powered route; a lot of people starting out with high powered tube amps amps end up buying more modest 40 or lower watt per channel tube amp. You have a nice linestage so I know you are looking for a power amp, but, you should listen to something like the Synthesis Audio A100 tube integrated amp (it has a very good built in DAC too). The company makes power amps too, but they might be a bit high in price. My local dealer has a lot of customers switching to A100’s (100 watts per channel) or its baby brother the A40 from some pretty exotic solid state amps (e.g., D’Agostino, Pass Labs) and tube amps (e.g., top end Jadis). |
@corelli The amp is an Elekit 8200R from Tube Depot. It’s supposed to arrive today. It comes with JJ 6L6GC power tubes and the usual 12AU7 inputs. A guy in our local audio club built Elekit’s 300B kit - went all in with the WE tubes and other upgrades, like Lundahl output transformers - and paired it with 93db speakers. I’ve heard it and it’s wonderful. I’ll probably set my amp’s jumpers for ultralinear (8 watts pc) at first, since my understanding is it’s optimized for that. You can also choose triode (4 watts pc) and pentode with the jumpers. The thing also has an auto bias circuit that adjusts for different tubes, so you can pop in EL34s, KT66 and other, similar tubes. I’ll feed it from my DAC at first and then from my Pass diy preamps and see what works best. It’s got a volume control of its own. I’m excited. Hope I don’t fry myself with the voltages these things operate on. The speakers are DIY bookshelves with one 6.5-inch full-range driver each. I sourced all the parts from Parts Express. I searched for an 8-ohm speaker with 90+db sensitivity and carbon fiber cones (just because I like the sound of Wharfedale speakers and figured their woven Kevlar cones had something to do with it). I was a little shocked they sounded as good as they do. No, they don’t make much bass, but I added a little Martin Logan sub I got cheap and it all works together nicely. The setup is just for a family room we spend a lot of time in, so it’s not intended to be the end game system. |
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