Using PA Speakers In A Home "Audiophile" Application!


Hi guys,

I am a bit inspired to explore/trial usage of a pair of PA speakers at home after i attended a live event recently. 

I looked at some Yamaha PA models and zoomed in on one that isn't too huge/heavy, relatively easy to move around perhaps. 

Are there any audiophiles here who had relative satisfaction trying such speakers at home? I am also thinking that this may not be a great idea, but, just curious at the moment.

 

deep_333

@atmasphere wrote:

My concern would be breakups in the drivers, which cause distortion and harshness. PA stuff mostly does not care about that sort of thing since sound pressure is the main goal. But its a big deal with home audio speakers, where such things can shoot the product down.

I don't know the specific product referred to by poster @deep_333, but as a claim aimed at pro drivers in general your statement is incorrect. If there are breakup modes prevalent here it's most likely due to a driver section being used outside it's recommended frequency range, and not because the drivers are more prone to breakups as such than "home audio" variants or very expensive, boutique equivalents - unless we're speaking beryllium diaphragms in the MF/HF drivers, which extend more cleanly into the upper octaves for a given diaphragm diameter. Motorforce is a factor as well, but hardly applicable as a significant contributor in this context.

Moreover, as a design intended for active configuration there are obvious advantages using steeper filter slopes, and thus avoid severe driver overlapping as you would with passive designs. This not least is a factor with horn-loading. Modern pro drivers (and even ones decades old) are extremely well designed, and used within their design parameters - not least actively - will yield no effective problems with breakup modes. 

@deep_333 wrote:

Nevertheless, since this is 106 db sensitive/possibly running at fractions of a watt for home listening levels...what type of "audiophile grade" home audio amplifier might you recommend?

I can say for certain pictured PA speakers above aren't 106dB sensitive overall. The direct radiating woofers are in the 96-99dB sensitivity range, although the horns above are +100dB sensitive. If they were passively configured then the system sensitivity would be dictated by the least efficient driver section (with the horns above dialed down to match LF), which are the woofers here. Since these are intended for active config. a staggered sensitivity rating for each drivers section should be stated.

With regard to amp matching, Ralph is the meastro here in giving advice. Noise can be an issue though with +100dB sensitive drivers coupled directly to amps without any passive filters in between, which can be partly alleviated with higher impedance drivers of 16 ohms, or simply a fitting resistor size in series over the MF/HF section. 

Late to the party here but can add this… 

I recently built a pair of horn based, coaxial floor standers using Radian (pro) drivers. These (and similar) have been used to great success by Live Act Audio, Daniel Hertz, Coherent Audio, Spatial Audio and others, in various sizes, boxes, open baffle, on and on…you get the picture. With proper “Home Audio, audiophile” crossovers and proper enclosures, the Prototypes I made allowed me to break free from 40 years of Panel speakers. (I had Quad 63, Martin Logan ESL and Eminent Technology LFT 8 all at the same time until this past year and have sold them all on CAM). The experimental (first) pair I built are so good that I may not commit to the Ultimate Version I had planned. I now enjoy All the detail and imaging but with real Dynamic Range!

Try the Pro Audio stuff but take the above advice of others here and be aware of Pro Crossovers and enclosures, as they both are not suitable for home use.

Enjoy the experience of trying Something Completely Different