Bybee Internal Speaker Bullets - user feedback?


I added a couple of Bybee Small Slipstream Purifiers on the RCA inputs in my amp and like the effect quite a bit.

Exchanging with Jack Bybee, he said the internal speaker bullets are, in his view, the best bang for buck of his products. That would be an expensive move for me as I would need 2 sets (they retail at about $800 per set).

Searching around A'gon, I was surprised to see little talk about these. Found a thread from 2008 discussing the Bybee Golden Goddess that apparently had just come out at the time. I believe the Internal Speaker Bullets are a DIY version of the Golden Goddess, that retails at $4200 (!!).

Would love to hear from those who tried them. In what kind of speakers? Was it worth it to you?

My speakers are B&W 804S. They were $4k when new...not anymore. I have to wonder if best bang for buck is to spend $1.6k on these Bybees or upgrade the speakers. The Bybees I can keep with me in future speaker upgrades, though.

Thank you!
lewinskih01
Onhwy61,
I don't think these will be the last speakers I'll ever own, but placing the bullets between driver and crossover is easy enough to put in and take out, so should I sell the speakers I would keep the Bybees with me.
I'm wondering along the same lines as you regarding spending 1.6k on this. Rest of system is highly optimized PC server, Audiophilleo with PurePower, Metrum Octave, Lamm LL2, McIntosh MC275, and 2 Rythmik Subwoofers in DIY boxes.

Cerrot,
Stillpoints under the speakers. Interesting. Never thought of that. Which Stillpoints would you recommend? 3 or 4 under the speakers?

Ebm,
don't know...are my speakers great per your definition? For many here they would be mid-fi, yet for 99% of people they would be outstanding.

Cheers!
Just following on other posts I suggest that before investing $1600 in your speakers check out an MIT Oracle AC1 power cord -- trying it on on your preamp, digital and amp in turn. I think you will notice a distinct improvement in the sound of your speakers--from a very sound investment for your entire system. Cheers. (I was astounded at the improvement through my B&W speakers.)
"If you have great speaker you don't need this."

A drunkard's dream if I ever did see one....I have a sneaking suspicion it's actually people with great speakers, you know, EX-pensive speakers, that are scarfing up all the Bybee filters, bullets, Purifiers, some of which are hideously expensive. These are not some sort of playtoys for cheap DIYers. :-)
Geoffkait wrote 'I have a sneaking suspicion that what we have here is someone suffering from the reverse expectation bias, when you thunk a tweak is a fraud or won't work, you can't hear it cause you psyched yourself out.' That's a possibility. As well as it being a placebo when people like me hear a difference.

Personally for what its worth I simply think its one of those tweaks that works for some and not others.

It wasn't until recently I heard cables making a big difference. Why hadn't I before - who knows - my gut tells me my system wasn't revealing enough - but that's just a guess.

Thanks
Bill
Lewinskih01,

I would start treating the AC inlet of your source components since it will have the greatest impact IMHO. My first Bybee mod was performed on the AC input of my Benchmark DAC 1 and it litterally transformed the unit. Impact was so good that I did the same mod on a second Benchmark DAC I recently purchased.

My second mod was on the AC input of my Krell FBP 350 MCX monoblocks. Again, same increase in resolution. Last mod was performed on my refurbished Apogee Duetta Signature ribbon speakers done by Rich Murry. Rich has replaced all the ribbons and I have rebuilt the Xover from scratch. This is when I decided to add the Bybee speaker bullets on my external Xover. Again same incremental effect of added resolution.

Be careful if you want to install the Bybee on the analog path. I have looked into this for the Benchmark and Krells and the operation was too risky because of lack of space to install these. Maybe your gear will permit it or not. Best bang for the buck would be to do the AC path since far easier to install. Personally, I would not be putting $1.6K on a $4K speaker as your first step. Start installing Bybees upstream in your system and going downstream afterwards as money is available.