KLaudio or Degritter Mark II


Just curious to know if anyone out there has used both the KLaudio ultrasonic record cleaning machine and the Degritter Mark II (or the original Degritter) and which you thought achieved the best or better results.

I've got a lash-up ultrasonic cleaning system that I've put together which costs significantly less than the original Degritter. The end result I get with my lash-up system is, at least, as effective as the original Degritter but significantly more labor intensive. The Degritter is much more eloquent in this regard, which is its allure. I know the KLaudio is twice the price, but I'm much more interested in optimum results.

Thanks!

oldaudiophile

@antinn in a two-tank protocol employing my present 40kHz US machine and the Elma Sonic P60H, would using a 6L 180W, 132kHz cleaning power, 200W heating power, instead of the P60H achieve better results?

Thanks!

@oldaudiophile

Congrats on your ultrasonic cleaning solution- I believe that ultrasonic is the best way to clean vinyl records.  I was torn between the labor intensive but effective Kirmiss vs the 3x the price Degritter II, decided with the lazy choice as I have many vinyl to clean.

@antinn

Thanks for sharing your expertise.

@oldaudiophile

".in a two-tank protocol employing my present 40kHz US machine and the Elma Sonic P60H, would using a 6L 180W, 132kHz cleaning power, 200W heating power, instead of the P60H achieve better results?"

Recall that as the kHz increases, the power required for cavitation increases. The Degritter 120kHz while using a small tank (that requires more power) is 300W and 1.4-L = (300W/1.4L) = 214 W/L.

Your 132-kHz, 6L 180W is the same power as a 40kHz unit = (180W/6L) = 30 W/L.  The Elmasonic P60 PP_Elmasonic_P60H_EN.pdf (elma-ultrasonic.com) 37/80-kHz shows an effective power of 180-W, but with a peak ultrasonic performance of 720W and based on user experience the power is real - it gets into the tank.

What do you think?

@antinn Can't argue with math!  Thanks, once more!  Now, time to take a good look at the P60H operation manual.

All the best!