Is soundstage width a myth?


AHHH CRAP, I MEANT THE TITLE TO BE ABOUT DEPTH. Sorry & Thank you. Can’t edit the title.

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Sound "appears" to come from far left and right, well outside the speaker placement width.

It also appears behind the speakers, in front of the speakers, apparent height is also heard, and if you have a nice setup you can actually hear sound that appears to come from behind the listener.

You don't need expensive equipment to hear this.  A definitely not audiophile, fully studio manufactured, recording I use for a lot of demos is Led Zeppelin II, side one.  If you can't hear the swirling up and behind your head on track 1 your speakers/room are not set up properly.

Chesky demonstration disks can show all of this.

 

Width is a fundamental part of soundstage and certainly not a myth. This is basic and if you’re not at this level, something’s wrong. Just my two cents. 

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       Lots of special effects, on that album, via a process called, "Q-sound" among various other recording tricks/gyrations.

       My favorite: the horse-drawn sleigh, that comes onstage from behind my left shoulder and proceeds diagonally, to behind the right speaker.

     (Caveat emptor) GREAT ALBUM, but: I've heard poor pressings/CDs that didn't retain the info/effects (same Columbia numbers, etc).

http://www.spacial-anomaly.com/amused-to-death-by-roger-waters-an-album-retrospective/

                       and: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSound

Amused to death was processed using something called Q-Sound.  This is a clever processing that mimics what happens when sound from sources to the extreme left or right or even behind hit the listeners head.  If, for example, a source is located directly at your left ear, the sound first hits your left year, the head shades the source from directly hitting your right ear, but the sound diffracts and travels around the outside of your head anyway and reaches the right ear.  That sound hitting the right ear is different in timing (phase) and in frequency balance, and your brain knows how to interpret those differences as a source to the extreme left.  Q-Sound is reproduces this effect and then, for the extreme left example, inject out of phase information into the right channel to cancel parts of its signal to achieve a simulation of this sort of effect.  Very clever.  Not many recordings are encoded this way, but, there are enough recordings where there are similar clues in the recording that cause instruments to appear well outside the location of the speakers.   

The same phase shifting/frequency response changes from sound hitting the head from different angles, also give height cues.  This is something demonstrated well by the Chesky Test CD described above.  The create an artificial series of test signals (the LEDR test Rodman99999 described above)  that appear to rise up out of one speaker, move to a point almost overhead, then descend back into the other speaker.  The effect is not as pronounces if the speaker does not have good phase coherency, or the speaker location has a lot of nearby surfaces reflecting sound and confusing the carefully constructed cancelling signals.  This helps the listener do speaker placements that minimize such interference, which should help with imaging of the system.

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