Low level listening


I am interested in everybody's thoughts on speakers on low level listening. Currently I have Tekton Lore's. They are the upgraded model and I like them, but they open to most of the time at a higher volume then I'm comfortable with. Smart me had to much fun listening to live music. " tinnitus".  I have ordered Magnapan LRS+ which I auditioned at my home which seemed more articulate at lower volumes. Any other ideas would be appreciated. Speakers or cures ? Just kidding about cures. 

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For any speaker to sound good at low levels it has to be designed with a giant suckout in the midrange to exaggerate the highs and lows lost to the dreaded Fletcher Munson curve. There is no free lunch.

Lots of good input here. I’d rather be lucky than good…Heritage Lintons, a REL T5i and a recapped and serviced PS-200 Crown with plenty of overhead reach a nice full sound a very comfy Db level. My unsophisticated logic follows most of the posts here, the trick at low levels is filling in a little bass, however you get there. 

ANY good speaker, ANY great system: when played at low volume, YOUR EARS, anybody’s ears, do not have a flat curve. Low volumes, you hear less volume of lows and highs, relative to everything in between. Science!

The ’Loudness’ circuits (filters, equalizers) were developed to compensate for EVERYBODY’s ears hearing less bass and less highs AT LOW VOLUMES. EVERYBODYS (any age, not tinnitus, simply facts).

Play Jazz at a decent volume, the bass player, and the imaging of where the players are you get terrific imaging from your awesome system, specifically the bass enhances the enjoyment of Jazz..

Now, lower the volume: the bass player is kind of gone relative to the other players.

Engage the Loudness feature, bass player is back.

Raise the volume: remember to disable the Loudness feature, or you will have a bass bloated sound.

That is why I like the Chase’s AUTOMATIC and PROGRESSIVE engagement of the Loudness circuit. Raise the volume, the Loudness eq is automatically disengaged.

Like I said, vintage equipment ALL had Loudness feature. Implementation varied.

My Yamaha Receiver has two volume controls. 1st you set ’normal’ volume with one volume control, then leave it alone. You use the other volume control which raises the volume with zero loudness added, you lower the volume, and the Fletcher Munson curve: low bass and high treble are boosted, progressively as you lower the volume with that control.

My Fisher Tube Preamp has a loudness switch. As you lower the main volume, you notice the bass is getting weak. You engage the loudness circuit, and it ’adds’ the bass back.

REPEAT: every speaker remains unchanged, everyone’s ears hear less bass, ’loudness’ electronically boosts the bass SENT TO to your wonderfully flat speakers.

I think it's got to be panels, they have better detail and soundstage than cones at low volume.  May be because the moving membranes are lighter than cones, being much thinner and not requiring to be rigid.

But why not try headphones for low level listening.  The intimate interface with the ear at very low levels gives palpable reality better than any speaker.

Magnepan 1.7i coupled with PS audio M700 monos is a match made in heaven for low level listening. I never feel the need to “crank it up”. I get plenty of detail and impact even at low level. I also have 2 subs in the system that contribute. Some recordings beg to be played loud and I do sometimes “crank it up” but always go back to LLL. BTW, it’s never fatiguing.