Is there such a thing as a FOREVER DAC/streamer?


I know I might be talking about rehab in a back alley, but here it goes.

I've been looking to upgrade my Hegel H390's internal DAC. But I would only do it to knock it out of the park; as the Hegel's internal DAC does an admirable job. So the question is, is there such a thing as an end game-forever DAC. At the end of the day, DAC is a digital product. Digital technology evolve quicker than analog technology. 

Will that Lumin X1, Bartok, Dave, etc be obsolete in 3 years? Thus making this a moot conversation...

gpixels

Woah, who said anything about future proofing. Definitely not.

 

But each technology goes through a number of stages. Introduction (remember the CD! Wow, quiet background… but wow, what terrible sound)… slow improvement, then rapid improvement at the high end, then slowing improvement at the high end, improvement of mid-level devices… then continuing improvements at all levels. something like that.

DAC have gotten pretty good. I think we are at the mid-level DACs improvement level. Streamers are behind. High end streamers are way ahead… but that will slowly change.

I just bought an Aurender N200. I love it, hopefully it will be supported for years to come. That unit was worth the price of admission. Sounds better with a good DAC than any transport / DAC I’ve had in the past that spins physical media. SACD and BluRay Audio sounded great on those machines but where do you find discs?

The N200 sounds awesome with Qobuz 24/96 and higher content and sounds better than any CD player I’ve had with Redbook.

Will it be forced into obsolescence? Hope not

@oddiofyl 

Comgradulations! I am sure you will get a couple of decades of use out of your new streamer. 

Well... "forever" is a long time, but if it's awesome now it'll be awesome for a while... I think many of us can attest to still running on the internal dacs of cd players from ten or even twenty years ago; I know I do, and everybody including me likes the sound of my systems.  Is there something "better"...? Eh, sure, I suppose...   Will a great sounding dac now still sound great in fifteen years?  Yes, unless something goes wrong with it.  Might there be new formats, with new "effects" or whatever? Sure, but two-channel stereo will still be there, chugging along and sounding great. 

But if you're worried about it (unless you have lots of money sloshing around and your house is all paid off, your cars and all your other debt it paid off and your retirement accounts and kids' educations and so on and so on are all maxed out), then don't spend thousands of dollars on a dac that might give you some small perceived "improvement" over a less expensive one, only to be chomping at the bit to throw another thousands away a few years from now.  Find some frugal limit, get a good dac that sounds good with your system and to your aural preferences, and then enjoy the music.  There are many many dacs just like many many amps and speakers and whatever else... one can obsess to the point of never being satisfied with anything because there's always something over the rainbow out there; or, one can make some solid selections and relax for a decade or two.  

Or perhaps dacs can be "firmware updated" like operating systems... I dunno.  

That said, I know what I say is my perspective.  Only recently, now that I have some spare cash, have I felt any need or even desire to upgrade anything because I already have two systems that I like a lot.  I doubt I'll do much dac shopping; what I have sounds great, and if I do get that Technics SU R 1000 amp with it's own version of dacness, or that Accuphase e-480 with an Accuphase modular dac unit, I think I'll be sitting more than "pretty good."  I won't need any external dac; I'd rather play with speakers, if I'm not satisfied with my system's sound.  I like good stuff that lasts, and it's been a good formula in stereoland and in-general-land.