Subwoofer for Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grand

In HT applications, I agree that there are subwoofers that will go lower than a REL. The OP was asking about one that will perform well with his Viennas. As an owner of both Vienna and REL, I commented that this combo works good for me and many others. I stand by my claim that they are fast and musical subs.

I have a friend who has a Velo DD12 in his install. It si an awesome sub and extremely impressive when it comes to a movie soundtrack. But when we spin an LP or CD, my friend says he prefers my REL. Despite REL's unique connection, when time is taken to properly set one up, the results can be very satisfying.

["I have a friend who has a Velo DD12 in his install. It si an awesome sub and extremely impressive when it comes to a movie soundtrack. But when we spin an LP or CD, my friend says he prefers my REL."]

Since most systems and rooms are different the inclusion of any subwoofer can have dramatically different results. In my direct comparison using the Studio III, JL Audio F113, and the previous generation Velodyne DD-18, both the JL and the Velodyne clearly outperformed the Studio in ease of setup, output, and were far less detectable while in use.

On its own with only a crossover and gain control the Studio's short dedicated Nutrix cable made the room location, beyond a few short feet, recommended in the two short paragraphs of the REL installation instructions impossible in my room. Using the Velodyne software the audible shortcoming was able to be viewed visually. Using the REL's low level connections via the Velodyne the REL was far better integrated yet still not as undetectable as the other two. This could be a product of the subs down firing design, I'm not sure.

The idea the Velodyne is a subwoofer designed specifically for, "movie soundtrack," says to me little attention was paid to the extensive installation and optimization instructions. I would suggest your friend spend the time it takes [and depending, it can actually take quite a bit but the results are worth the effort] to use the Velodyne Manual Optimization program. I won't even get into the advantages of the remote control.

In the parameters of my direct comparison the common declaration by REL users that their products are musically superior is to me purely subjective. The others that participated in the comparison including the Studio's owner, all agreed the Velodyne and the JL were undetectable until turned off yet provided more low frequency gain.


As I said here in my earlier post most any subwoofer could benefit greatly from DSpeaker, home theater room correction, or other equalization components. I suspect the Studio / DSpeaker would be a favorable combination.

REL sub(s) sound superb w/ the VA speakers!

Thanks for the feed back everyone and the suggestions on types of subs ,equalizers , processors and room correction equipment.
I have been looking into the brand name subwoofers mentioned on this thread. My concern has been focused on proper blend/integration with my speakers.

Will have to look into the equalization components more. Seems like the Bryston 10B-Sub and other related equipment could be very helpful in the blend/intergration process.

I use to have Vandersteens 2WQ sub along with the 2CE. The 2WQ was a great sub and blended perfect with the speakers.
A true audiophile type sub, but it did not blend with my Mozarts do to the set crossover level in the 2wq. I am trying to replicate that blend with the Vienna Acoustics with a sub.
I would just back and buy the new version of the Vandy 2Ce Sig2 with the 2wq , but I find the Viennna acoustic more open sounding and tonally pleasing.

I need to explore the options suggested here with the blend of sub and equalizer/processors equipment. Also , it would be nice to find a place where one could see and hear these combinations demonstrated.

At the same time I might have to explore further up the Vandersteen food chain of speakers to see if any thing sparks my interest.


Thanks again for the advice and information.

Tim

Tim-

a 2nd option would be the Velodyne DD series. Keep us posted.
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