DAC Shootout Starts This Weekend


Okay...in another thread I promised to do a side-by-side evaluation of the Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap vs the Rockna Wavelight. Due to the astonishing incompetence of DHL this has been delayed. At the moment, I have a plethora of DACs here and am going to do a broader comparison.

I am going to do a compare of the Rockna Wavelight, Rockna Wavedream Signature, Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap, Chord Hugo 2, Chord Hugo TT2, Bricasti M3, Bricasti M1 Special Edition, Weiss 501 and the internal DAC card for an AVM A 5.2 Integrated amp as a baseline.

For sake of consistency, I am going to use that same AVM integrated amp driving Vivid Kaya 45s. I may branch out and do some listening on other speakers (Verdant Nightshade of Blackthorn and/or Wilson Benesch Vertexes) but want to use the Vivids for every compare as they are the fullest range speakers I have here. For sake of consistency I will use a Chord 2Go/2Yu connected via an Audioquest Diamond USB as a renderer. The only exception is the Hugo 2 which has a 2Go directly attached to it. I will use a Roon Nucleus+ as a server in all cases.

My plan is to use the same five songs on every DAC; In a Sentimental Mood from Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, Be Still My Beating Heart from Sting, Liberty from Anette Askvik, Duende from Bozzio Levin Stevens and Part 1 of Mozart String Quartet No 14 in G Major from the Alban Berg Quartet. The intent is to touch on different music types without going crazy.

I will take extensive notes on each listening session and write up a POV on the strengths of each unit. I am going to start this this Friday/Saturday and will be writing things up over the next month or so. If you have thoughts, comments or requests, I will be happy to try and accommodate. The one thing I am not going to do is make the list of songs longer as that has an exponential impact on this and make everything much harder. If and when other DACs come in on trade I may add to the list through time.
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So, as mentioned previously, the MPD-8 Dream DAC from Playback arrived and is now fully tested.  This took some effort as I have an amazing opportunity to listen to the flagship integrated amp from AVM and I just received my Inakustik sales samples which were incorporated into the system.  

That said, for the test, we rolled back to the ACM A5.2 integrated, Audioquest Cables, etc...

In the context of this test, the Dream is stunningly good.  There is sparkle in the piano in In a Sentimental Mood.  The drum rolls show off incredible separation and the saxophone is coming about 6' to the left of the left speaker.  

In Be Still My Beating Heart, separation of all the instruments is amazing.  There is no sibilance at all in Stings voice and when you hear beats drop, the noise floor is incredibly low.  The absolute soundstage is larger than the Edelweiss.  Very similar in scale to the Jadis JS1 MKV but more detailed.  Might be a hair less dynamic.  Edges are smoother and it is a cleaner, more analog sound.

In Liberty, her voice is centered and stable.  No sibilance and the effects come from where you would expect at this point having heard this song seemingly millions of times.  Tonally similar to the Jadis, slightly more forward than the Edelweiss.  Slightly less forward than the Rockna based on memory.  

In Duende, this is another high.  What I thought was incredibly clean lacking digital artifacts in the opening hit a new high.  The opening bass solo sounded more natural than on the Edelweiss or Jadis.  I explicitly went back and listened to the first minute of this song on all three back to back to back to make sure I was not hallucinating.  It really is smoother.

The Berg piece is amazing.  Scale is off for chamber but that is what I have come to expect from these more expansive sounding DACs.  No massing of strings.  No glare.  It is smooth and sweet and glorious.  

What is amazing to me is that we have now risen to a level where I would expect all DACs to be stunningly good and we are still finding noteworthy audible differences that make system matching critically important.  This is an incredibly smooth, analog sounding DAC yet there is a level of microdetail that is astonishing and usually accomplished via making the unit brighter.  

Parting with this MPD-8 when someone buys it is going to be a sad day.  It is wonderful and I am going to enjoy it thoroughly while it is hear.  

 

@verdantaudio thanks for this great thread. I read every page! I recently posted about moving from separate streamer/power supply/DAC to one unit and the Bricasti M3 came up there too. So I’ll be trying that plus a Meitner MA3 and possibly and t+a MP2000RII. 

I did my own small DAC shootout with several under $3k dacs, so I guess it’s time to start trying the $5k-$10k range. 

Currently 8 DAC models on offer and another in the pipeline.

https://sw1xad.co.uk/products/?prod_cat=digital-to-analogue-converters-dacs

There are a number of enthusiastic owners over on AudioCircle.

Yes, but to the best of my knowledge the DAC III Balanced is the sweet spot for performance vs. price and is in the same price range of many of the DAC's that Verdant has listened to. The price of the DAC III B is in the area of 12K in stock form without the various upgrades Slawa of SW1X offers. I started with a custom built DAC II Special and then had many exchanges with Slawa about his opinions as to his DAC's and where the performance curve begins to flatten out. 

@Verdantaudio such a good topic , I’d just like to mention I was at Robert of Worldwide home and was treated to a brief listening session of Aries Cerat tube mono block amplifiers and preamplifier,  Cerat Aries dac with the Pink Faun server all near suitcase size components .
Roberts pick of speakers were yet to be delivered however what he had at that time was pretty impressive, Months have pass and I still think about what I experienced.