How accurate are cable descriptions for your system?


Steve Huff, whose videos I typically like on YouTube is now reporting this about some cables:

SVS Ultra Cables can be found at Amazon for just about $100 for an 8 foot pair. These will bring a bit more bass to your sound but are less refined. 

Tuneful cables are light and have a nice design. They are leaner, and faster but also very good. You can find them for $79 for a 12 foot pair at Amazon HERE.

QUESTION: To what degree can his descriptions be taken as "likely true" for any given (sufficiently resolving) system?

I ask this for people who have found that cables DO make a difference (to their ears, in their system) and deniers will be ignored.

https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/my-fave-speaker-cables-under-100-hifi-quality/

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@williewonka 

Thank you for taking the time to post here. I was going to respond to OP after my initial post but your post sums it up very nicely. IMO, cables are just as important as your components and room acoustics. And you gotta hear them in your system rather than relying on reviewers and manufacturers description. For me, If I am interested in a cable or component, my ultimate test is to hear them in my system. The reviews and manufacturer description serves as reference point only. I trust my ears and years of experience above anything else. Let me reiterate what you said before this thread get derailed by cable naysayers :-) 

This hobby is very subjective

  • no two systems are alike
  • no two listening environments are alike
  • no two individuals hearing are alike
  • no two musical tastes are alike

Cheers! 

Let me reiterate what you said before this thread get derailed by cable naysayers :-

 

When i say that cable are secondary, i means when you own great one it is over... And there exist great one at all prices like the gear...

Saying that cables is important as acoustic and are on the same level is pure ignorance of acoustic...

I am not a "cable naysayers" i am an acoustic experimenters...You are not...Buying gear and cables is not buying knowledge sorry....

 

This hobby is very subjective

  • no two systems are alike
  • no two listening environments are alike
  • no two individuals hearing are alike
  • no two musical tastes are alike

This hobby is very objective too:

mechanical control and electrical noise floor control and acoustical control are OBJECTIVE factors...

And forget audiophile gear inspired engineering marketing vocabulary, read about acoustic and psycho-acoustic vocabulary...

We learn to listen by acoustic listening experiments not by buying the gear and plugging it and hearing the difference and merely ascertain a difference with our past gear...This is fetichism not steps in the way of learning to listen...

What we listen to in a room is defined by rigorous already existing concept in acoustic...

 

 

“Saying that cables is important as acoustic and are on the same level is pure ignorance of acoustic...”
@mahgister

I usually avoid engaging folks who have a tunnel vision. Your singular purpose (evident from your 8K+ posts) here is to advocate and promote room acoustics. That’s your belief and I am A-ok with that! I do not wish to engage with you or anyone who clearly focuses on one aspect of system building and downplay everything else. That’s your prerogative and let’s leave at that, I respectfully request that you keep me out of your other worldly acoustics fetish fest!

Sorry to correct you. but i am an advocate of the THREE main working embeddings control: mechanical, electrical and acoustical...

Then i will let you alone if you dont accuse people of being "cables naysayers" which is the most ridiculous acusation possible in an audio thread, not because cables dont matter, they matter, but it is secondary matter completely...

Only ignorance put cables difference on the same level that these 3 main important dimensions i just spoke about, and this is this cables obsession or fuses obsession , and fuse may matter yes, that makes audiophiles look like ridiculous...

Cables matter yes you are right but it is secondary...

It is not necessary to answer, you will not refute evidence by repeating that cables matter...They matter but not so much than you think...

Looking for costly cables BEFORE turning our attention on vibrations control, hight electrical noise flor, and acoustic , is  reflecting ignorance... Upgrading an already  basic good system BEFORE  turning our attention to these three dimensions is also ignorance...Sorry...Money for costly  cables and costly  upgrade dont replace thinking...

I usually avoid engaging folks who have a tunnel vision. Your singular purpose (evident from your 8K+ posts) here is to advocate and promote room acoustics. That’s your belief and I am A-ok with that! I do not wish to engage with you or anyone who clearly focuses on one aspect of system building and downplay everything else. That’s your prerogative and let’s leave at that, I respectfully request that you keep me out of your other worldly acoustics fetish fest!

 

I have read interconnect and cable reviews in The Absolute Sound and Stereophile for decades. You must understand the nomenclature to read and understand The reviews… but I have found them to be very accurate. But you must understand your own system as well.

I have spent many hundreds of hours comparing and contrasting different interconnects and cables. And one sideline… in general, Belkin and Blue Jeans are most similar to the free interconnects you get with a component. These are not an upgrade. I have tried them.